More Discussions for this daf
1. The key to rain and the nature of "Shelichus" 2. MAYIM 3. First Mishnah
4. Three Keys 5. Techiyas ha'Mesim, Nisuch ha'Mayim, Eser Neti'os 6. R'Yehoshua
7. Machlokes Rashi and Tosfos 8. Af Bri and the Key of Rain 9. Tefilas Geshem
10. Why does R' Yehoshua Need to Bring Another R'ayah 11. The keys of life 12. Maftechos
13. Geshem and Matar 14. Safek in Tosfos DH Me'emasai 15. Resurrection of the dead?
16. Meshech Chochmah about the keys to the seas 17. Ra'avan 18. the 3 maftejot
19. Mashiv ha'Ru'ach 20. Mashiv ha'Ruach 21. The Hint of Nisuch ha'Mayim according to Rabbi Yehuda ben Beseirah
22. לפיכך אם בא להזכיר כל השנה כולה מזכיר
DAF DISCUSSIONS - TA'ANIS 2

Matias Libedinsky asked:

It seems that the argument that chazal gives against the opinion of Eliezer that we only praise H'm for being able to make rain and that we are not asking for rain is that, we are really asking for it. They even compare this blessing with the resurrection of the dead blessing saying that it is always time for it so it is OK to us to ask for it Even they later argue that we don't praise H'm for the winds and the clouds because we don't relly need them. What I don't understand is why we say the blessing "King Who causes death..". We are not asking for it, are we?

Matias Libedinsky, USA

The Kollel replies:

(a) This is an excellent question. The commentary Dover Shalom (printed in the Otzar ha'Tefilos) explains that the death of the body is the beginning of the life of the soul and consequently eternal life: just as a seed must rot and disintegrate before the plant grows. Therefore, "he kills" means that he begins the process of granting everlasting life, which is finished with Techiyas ha'Mesim.

(b) The Ritva in Taanis 2a, though, explains that "Memis u'Mechayeh" is referring to the past, to the dead who were resurrected by the prophets, such as Elisha and Eliyahu. The following statement, "v'Ne'eman Ata Lehachayos," is referring to the Resurrection of the future.

If so, the meaning of this Berachah according to the Ritva is: " Just as you caused death and then resurrected the dead in the past, so too, you are trusted to resurrect in the future.

-Mordecai