More Discussions for this daf
1. Waiting between meat and milk 2. Rambam on Milk and Meat 3. Hadachah and Kinuach- Halachah Outlines
4. Mayim Acharonim 5. Kishuf 6. Chulin 105a: Waiting between meat and milk
7. Waiting between meat and milk 8. Waiting between milk and meat 9. Insights to the Daf -- Using The Holy Name
10. WASHING 11. Measuring Salt 12. Eating Meat After Eating Cheese
13. מים מאוסים המקלחים... 14. גבינה מקיבת גמל
DAF DISCUSSIONS - CHULIN 105

Yisrael Apfel asks:

In the Halacha outlines for this Daf you write that the Rambam holds that either kinuach or hadacha suffices. I believe this is a mistake as the Rambam writes explicitly

"VeTzarich SheYaDiach Yadav ViYakneach Panav'. See the Kesef Mishneh there who explains that the Rambam is learning like the majority of the Rishonim that both Hadacha and Kinuach are required but the Rambam defines Hadacha differently as 'Hadachas Yadav' and not Peh. But he still requires both and the Kesef Mishna does not say otherwise.

Further, the Gra that you cite writes that it is the Rashba who holds you only need either hadacha or kinuach. If the Rambam held either one suffices, then of course the Gra would have referenced him. Please correct. Thank you very much for the wonderful resources you provide.

Yisrael Apfel, Queens, NY

The Kollel replies:

I wrote

>>1. Rambam (Hilchos Ma'achalos Asuros 9:26): If one ate cheese or milk, he may eat meat immediately afterwards. He must wash his hands and clean his mouth in between.

I think this is a proper translation. I did not specify what is "cleaning his mouth", but from what I cite from the Kesef Mishnah, it is clear that the Rambam does not require rinsing with liquid (it suffices to clean with food).

i. Kesef Mishneh: Rashi, Tosfos and the Rosh say that 'washing' is rinsing the mouth. The Rambam holds that it is washing the hands. A support is that the Gemara discussed eating fowl without washing his hands and cleaning the mouth. It did not mention rinsing the mouth. Regarding Rav Yitzchak, the Gemara discussed only washing his hands. The custom is to fulfill both opinions, and wash (and clean) the mouth and wash the hands.<<

The Gra cites specifically the Rashba, for the Rashba holds that hadacha and kinuach both apply to the mouth, and you only need one of them. He does not require washing the hands. The Rambam holds that Hadachah is washing the hands, and he requires this as well as cleaning the mouth.

Pesach Feldman