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1. Devarim she'b'Lev 2. The Gilyon Ha'Shas 3. Giving a Get Willingly
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DAF DISCUSSIONS - KIDUSHIN 50

Michoel Yehoshua asks:

The Gemara explains that a person must bring a korban willingly but can also be coerced, based on the fact that the pesukim both say "lirtzono" and "yakriv oto" - he must bring it. 2 questions on this:

1) Is this specifically speaking about a korban chatat? How do we know?

2) What about the giving of a get? Where in the pesukim does the Torah suggest that the halacha is a man must give a get willingly, and that he can be coerced? (The Gemara does not give the same textual analysis of the pesukim here).

Thank you!

Michoel Yehoshua, New Jersey, US

The Kollel replies:

Dear Michoel,

Both of your questions are excellent!

1a. Arguably, one might not think to limit this law to Chatas because -- from the Torah Or at least -- I see that the verse being cited is referring to a different Korban type, namely Olah.

1b. But to expand on this, Tosfos (Bava Basra 48a, DH Yakriv) teaches that this law applies specifically to voluntary Korbanos, i.e. Neder or Nedavah, but not for obligatory Korbanos, such as Chatas and Asham, since there is no need for coercion, as it is assumed that a person will bring these obligations based on his own initiative. The precedent for this qualification is in the Mishnah (Bava Kama 40a) which says that Beis Din does not force a person in such a case because presumably the individual will want the atonement.

1c. However, this raises a question, namely, that if the Korban referred to here is only voluntary, then what is the reference to Kaparah? It is referring to proactive avoidance of the potential sin that would result had he not brought the Korban Neder/Nedavah.

2. The Rashbam (Bava Basra 48a) explains that this is based on the verse, "He shall give [the divorce document] into [his wife's] hand" (Devarim 24:3), which implies that he must give it willingly.

I hope this helps!

Best wishes,

Yishai Rasowsky