More Discussions for this daf
1. Teaching Torah to non-Jews 2. Feeding the Dogs and Caring for King David 3. Forgiven after Death
4. Hashra'as ha'Shechinah 5. Melachah she'Einah Tzericha l'Gufah 6. Author of Tehillim 24
7. David ha'Melech's Final Concerns 8. Mekor that Learning Prevents the Angel of Death 9. David ha'Melech asking for 1 day less of life
10. "Hiding" Mishlei 11. When Patur means Mutar 12. Al Tikri
13. Extinguishing for a Choleh Sheyesh Bo Sakana 14. Chanukat HaBayit shel Shlomo 15. Muktzah for King David?
16. תקנות משה רבינו
DAF DISCUSSIONS - SHABBOS 30

Mark Bergman asked:

The Gemoro says (30a) that the Mishna goes according to R.Yehuda, and extinguishing for a Choleh which is Potur speaks about a Choleh Sheyesh bo Sakana, and Potur means Mutar.

The Gemoro said on daf 3a that there are only 3 cases in Hilchos Shabbos where Potur means Mutar (where one is doing an action) - wouldn't this be included?

Kol Tuv

Meir Eliezer Bergman

Manchester UK

The Kollel replies:

Your Kashya must be a good one, because Tosfos on Daf 3a (DH 'Bar me'Hani' asks it). And they answer that whereas in all the other cases, it is not at all obvious that Patur means Patur u'Mutar (and Shmuel had to teach that the Tana does in fact mean that); whereas in the current case, which is one of Piku'ach Nefesh, it is obvious that Patur means Patur u'Mutar.