More Discussions for this daf
1. Pesharah 2. Rabbi Meir and Brouria 3. Midrash does not contradict Gemara
4. Davening in a lower spot and the evening Shema 5. Elisha 6. Elisha and the Shunamis
7. Zman Krias Shema 8. Holiness and Flies 9. Davening For Others
10. Going on one's own merit 11. Semuchin, Shirah in the womb 12. Elisha was Kadosh
13. 14. Chizkiyahu's misdeeds 15. Gog u'Magog
16. Ibur HaChodesh and Melech Chizkiyahu 17. She'lo Yistakel be'Makom Ervah
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 10

Elie Samet asks:

on daf 10b berachos

"one who davens zcus others then the zcus is his..those who daven zcus himself the merit depends on others.

question one why does this have to be in a non direct way?

question two which way is the correct?

Elie Samet

The Kollel replies:

If a person davens for himself and mentions his own merits it appears as if he is being haughty and demanding reward for his actions. This alone takes away from his merits as true prayer requires humility and for this reason Chizkiyah's prayer was found wanting. The correct method of prayer would be as we pray, requesting that the merit of our forefathers protect us (in the first Berachah of the Amidah) and only then making our own requests in the other Berachos.

There is a second issue here. A person who is in a predicament is deemed a "Chavush" -- a prisoner who cannot free himself and therefore requires the intervention of others (see Berachos 5b). Thus, a sick person requires other people's prayers and not just his own. Similarly, a person praying is in need and therefore requires the merit of others.

Yoel Domb