More Discussions for this daf
1. Good eyesight and saving the witnesses 2. Ein Onshin Min ha'Din 3. R. Yehuda Ben Tabbai and R. Shimon Ben Shetach
4. Witnesses Plotting 5. Who Do the Eidim Zomemim Pay 6. Makos 005: Hargu Ein Neheragin
7. Tana Beribi 8. Who Do the Eidim Zomemim Pay 9. Ka'asher Zamam by Malkos
10. Who Do the Eidim Zomemim Pay 11. v'Hitzilu ha'Eidah 12. Meshalshin b'Makos
13. After Gmar Din but before He is Put to Death 14. Shem Eidim Zomemim 15. Part of a Group Found To Be Eidim Zomemim
16. Edim Zomemim in Dinei Mamonos 17. Miracles and Halachah 18. Punishing Edim Zomemim
19. The Gemara answers by saying it's a good question 20. Edim Zomemim dividing their punishment 21. Edim Zomemim
22. Rashi and Tosfos 23. Judges 24. משלשין בממון
 DAF DISCUSSIONS - MAKOS 5
1. Joshua Danziger asks:

Hello, sorry if this is a basic question, but it's unclear to me who Eidim Zomemim actually are meant to pay in a monetary case. The working assumption seems to be that they pay it to the accused, who they were trying to make pay money. But maybe they should pay the person they were trying to make the defendant pay to (eg they want to make Reuven pay Shimon, perhaps they should pay the money to Shimon because that would have been the outcome).

Or according the view that it's a kenas/fine, maybe they should just pay Beis Din?

thank you!

Josh

2. The Kollel replies:

Sholom Rav.

Since we learn from "Ka'asher Zamam" that we consider it as if the witnesses had succeeded to achieve what they intended to do - they receive Malkos or the death-penalty as if the Dayanim had accepted their testimony - here too, we consider it as if the Beis-Din declared Reuven Chayav to pay Shimon on account of their testimony, and they are Chayav to reimburse him.

be'Virchas Kol Tuv.

Eliezer Chrysler.