1)
(a)Why was Rami bar Chana's innkeeper sad?
(b)Why did he decline to retract, when Rami bar Chama advised him to do so?
(c)So Rami bar Chama sent him to Rav Nachman. What did Rav Nachman rule?
(d)When might the seller discover his mistake? Will it affect the Halachah if he does?
1)
(a)Rami bar Chana's innkeeper was sad because he had just sold a donkey and realized that he had been underpaid by a sixth.
(b)He declined to retract, when Rami bar Chama advised him to do so because the time that one could show it to a merchant had already elapsed.
(c)So Rami bar Chama sent him to Rav Nachman, who ruled that the time-limit does not pertain to the seller (as we explained earlier).
(d)The seller might discover his mistake when he buys another article like the first one (since he will then be able to compare the prices, though it will make no difference to the Halachah even if he does.
2)
(a)How much was that man asking for silk belts that were worth five Zuzim, and how much was he willing to accept?
(b)By what logic did someone purchase them for six Zuzim rather than five and a half?
(c)When they came before Rav Chisda, what did he rule?
(d)Why is there no Ona'ah with regard to someone who buys from a Balabos?
2)
(a)The man asking for silk belts that were worth five Zuzim was asking for six, though he was willing to accept five and a half.
(b)Someone purchased them for six Zuzim rather than five and a half because he would then be able to reclaim one Zuz of Ona'ah; whereas had he paid five and a half, it would be a matter of Mechilah, and he would not receive anything.
(c)When they came before Rav Chisda however, he ruled that there is no Ona'ah with regard to the personal effects of a Balabos (causing the wily purchaser to lose out).
(d)The reason for this is because they are precious to him, and it is therefore as if he specifically stipulated that he was selling them at an inflated price (in which case there is no Ona'ah She'iltos).
3)
(a)Following a similar incident where a man purchased rings worth fifty Zuzim for sixty, Rav Chisda sent him away disappointed, just like he did in the previous case. What did Rav Dimi and Rebbi Elazar comment on Rav Chisda's ruling?
(b)How did Rav Chisda reconcile his rulings with the following Mishnah, which specifically includes what a Balabos sells in the Din of Ona'ah? What are Tzadraysa?
(c)Our Mishnah includes the seller in the Din of Ona'ah as well as the purchaser, and a merchant who is cheated as well as a Balabos. What does Rebbi Yehudah say?
(d)We already learned above from the Pasuk "ve'Chi Simkeru ... O Kanoh ... Al Tonu" that both the seller and the buyer are subject to the Lav of "Al Tonu". Having taught us that ...
1. ... the seller transgresses, why does the Torah need to teach us that the buyer transgresses too?
2. ... the buyer transgresses, why does the Torah need to teach us that the seller transgresses too?
3)
(a)Following a similar incident where a man purchased rings worth fifty Zuzim for sixty, Rav Chisda sent him away disappointed, just like he did in the previous case. Rav Dimi and Rebbi Elazar commented 'Yeyasher' ('Sh'ko'ach', corroborating his ruling).
(b)Rav Chisda reconciled his rulings with the following Mishnah, which specifically includes what a Balabos sells in the Din of Ona'ah by establishing it by Tzadraysa (canvas clothes that are initially meant to be sold, which do not therefore have the special sentimental value that other personal effects have on their owners).
(c)Our Mishnah includes the seller in the Din of Ona'ah as well as the purchaser, and a merchant who is cheated as well as a Balabos. Rebbi Yehudah precludes the latter from the Din of Ona'ah (and this will be explained later).
(d)We already learned above from "ve'Chi Simkeru ... O Kanoh ... Al Tonu" that both the seller and the buyer are subject to the Lav of "Al Tonu". Having taught us that ...
1. ... the seller transgresses, the Torah nevertheless needs to teach us that the buyer transgresses too even though he is not as conversant with the prices as the seller.
2. ... the buyer transgresses, the Torah needs to teach us that the seller transgresses too because whereas for the buyer, the article is an investment, for the seller, the sale constitutes a loss, for which, we might have thought, he is entitled to make up.
4)
(a)We learned in our Mishnah that according to Rebbi Yehudah, there is no Ona'ah by a merchant. What is the problem with that statement?
(b)Rav Nachman establishes Rebbi Yehudah by a Safsar. What is a 'Safsar'? What is then Rebbi Yehudah's reason?
(c)Rav Ashi disagrees. What does he mean when he interprets 'Ein Lo Ona'ah' to mean 'Eino be'Toras Ona'ah'?
(d)We would normally rule like Rav Ashi, because he is a later Amora. Why not in this case?
4)
(a)We learned in our Mishnah that according to Rebbi Yehudah, there is no Ona'ah by a merchant. The problem with that statement is 'Why not'?
(b)Rav Nachman establishes Rebbi Yehudah by a Safsar a sort of middle-man who buys goods and sells them immediately (for a small profit), and the reason that there is no Ona'ah if he is underpaid is because having just purchased the article, he obviously knows the price (in fact, he sold it cheaply, because a better deal came his way, and he needs the cash, and it is only after the re-sale that he decided to retract, to try and recoup his loss).
(c)Rav Ashi disagrees. When he interprets 'Ein lo Ona'ah' to mean 'Eino be'Toras Ona'ah', he means that the Din Ona'ah does not apply to a merchant, and that, because the merchant's livelihood depends on his profits, Rebbi Yehudah authorizes him to retract even when his losses amount to less than a sixth.
(d)We would normally rule like Rav Ashi, because he is a later Amora. But not in this case because Rav Nachman has the support of a Beraisa.
5)
(a)What does the Tana say about the purchaser who has been cheated?
(b)This does not concur with Rebbi Nasan in the Beraisa (quoted on the previous Amud), who holds 'Kanah u'Machzir Ona'ah'. Why does it also not appear to concur with Rebbi Yehudah ha'Nasi opinion there?
(c)Rebbi Elazar is at a loss to know who the author of our Mishnah is. How does Rabah amend Rebbi Nasan in the Beraisa, so as to conform with our Mishnah?
(d)Rava establishes our Mishnah like Rebbi Yehudah ha'Nasi, and the Beraisa, he says, simply complements the missing section in our Mishnah. How does Rav Ashi prove this from our Mishnah?
5)
(a)The Tana rules that a purchaser who has been cheated has the choice of either demanding his money back or of claiming just the Ona'ah.
(b)This does not concur with Rebbi Nasan in the Beraisa (quoted on the previous Amud), who holds 'Kanah u'Machzir Ona'ah'. Neither does it appear to concur with Rebbi Yehudah ha'Nasi there because he gives the choice to the seller who has been cheated, whereas the Tana of our Mishnah only says it about the purchaser.
(c)Rebbi Elazar is at a loss to know who the author of our Mishnah is. Rabah reconciles Rebbi Nasan in the Beraisa with our Mishnah by adding 'Ratzah' (the choice mentioned in the Mishnah) to his words.
(d)Rava establishes our Mishnah like Rebbi Yehudah ha'Nasi, and the Beraisa, he says, simply complements the missing section in our Mishnah. Rav Ashi proves this from our Mishnah which begins by equating the purchaser and the seller as regards Ona'ah, and then goes on to discuss only the purchaser. That is why Rebbi in the Beraisa finishes what the Mishnah began.
6)
(a)According to Rav, if Reuven sells Shimon an object adding 'al-Menas she'Ein Lecha Alai Ona'ah', his stipulation is void. What does Shmuel say?
(b)We try and connect this Machlokes with the Machlokes Tana'im. Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa, says that if a man betroths a woman 'al-Menas she'Ein Lach Alai She'er, K'sus ve'Ona'ah', his stipulation is void. Why is that?
(c)Rebbi Yehudah accepts 'Davar she'be'Mamon'. Why? Which of the above constitute Davar she'be'Mamon'?
(d)It seems that Rav holds like Rebbi Meir, and Shmuel, like Rebbi Yehudah. How do we establish ...
1. ... Rav even like Rebbi Yehudah? Why might the latter agree in Rav's case?
2. ... Shmuel even like Rebbi Meir? Why might the latter agree in Shmuel's case?
6)
(a)According to Rav, if Reuven sells Shimon an object adding 'al-Menas she'Ein Lecha Alai Ona'ah', his stipulation is void. According to Shmuel it stands.
(b)We try and connect this Machlokes with the Machlokes Tana'im. Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa, says that if a man betroths a woman 'al-Menas she'Ein lach alai She'er, K'sus ve'Ona'ah', his stipulation is void because he is 'Masneh al Mah she'Kasuv ba'Torah' (his stipulation clashes with the Torah's prohibition).
(c)Shmuel accepts the stipulation of 'She'er and K'sus' (food and clothes) because they fall under the category of Davar Mamon, and Mamon is subject to Mechilah.
(d)It seems that Rav holds like Rebbi Meir, and Shmuel, like Rebbi Yehudah. However, we establish ...
1. ... Rav even like Rebbi Yehudah, who will agree in Rav's case because (unlike in the case of Kidushin, where the woman has been told in no uncertain terms that she will not receive her due), the purchaser does not know for sure that there will be Ona'ah, and is not therefore Mochel with a full heart.
2. ... Shmuel even like Rebbi Meir, who will agree in Shmuel's case because Rebbi Meir only forbids stipulating against the Torah there where the condition definitely goes against the Torah, but not in our case, where there may not be any Ona'ah.
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7)
(a)Rav Anan qualifies Shmuel's ruling. What distinction does he draw between 'al-Menas she'Ein Lecha Alai Ona'ah' and 'al-Menas she'Ein Bo Ona'ah? In which of these cases would his condition be invalid?
(b)Why is that?
(c)Which of the three Dinim will then apply, Mechilah Bitul Mekach or Ona'ah?
7)
(a)Rav Anan qualifies Shmuel's ruling by drawing a distinction between 'al-Menas she'Ein lecha alai Ona'ah', which is valid and 'al-Menas she'Ein bo Ona'ah, which is not ...
(b)... because he is not stipulating, but making a claim which is simply not true (see Rashash).
(c)Consequently, the sale is void because it is a case of Bitul Mekach.
8)
(a)We learned in a Beraisa 'ha'Nosei ve'ha'Nosen ba'Amanah, ve'ha'Omer la'Chavero al-Menas she'Ein Lecha alai Ona'ah, Ein lo Alav Ona'ah'. What does 'ha'Nosei ve'ha'Nosen ba'Amanah' mean?
(b)What is the Tana coming to teach us?
(c)Why does the second case in the Beraisa pose a Kashya on Rav?
(d)How does Abaye answer the Kashya?
8)
(a)We learned in a Beraisa 'ha'Nosei ve'ha'Nosen ba'Amanah, ve'ha'Omer la'Chavero al-Menas she'Ein Lecha alai Ona'ah, Ein lo Alav Ona'ah'. 'ha'Nosei ve'ha'Nosen ba'Amanah' refers to a case -where Reuven gives Shimon an object to sell on his behalf for whatever price he can obtain for it, the money to be returned after a certain date, until when it is a loan (and he pays him for his time and trouble).
(b)The Tana is coming to teach us that this transaction is not subject to Ona'ah (i.e. Reuven cannot demand extra money because he thinks that Shimon sold it for too low a price, and Shimon cannot demand a cut in the profits because he thinks that he sold it for a higher price than it is really worth).
(c)The second case in the Beraisa poses a Kashya on Rav when it says 've'ha'Omer la'Chavero al-Menas she'Ein Lecha alai Ona'ah, Ein lo Alav Ona'ah' since we concluded earlier that according to Rav, there is Ona'ah (even according to Rebbi Yehudah, in which case the Beraisa has no author).
(d)Abaye answers the Kashya by reverting to the original proposition that Rav holds like Rebbi Meir, and Shmuel, like Rebbi Yehudah (in which case the author of the Beraisa will be Rebbi Yehudah, who always validates a monetary condition, even if the stipulator does not know for certain that there is Ona'ah).
9)
(a)Rava abides by the alternative explanation (that Rav and Shmuel are not subject to the opinions of Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah). How does he nevertheless reconcile the Beraisa with Rav"? In which case will Rav concede that his stipulation stands?
(b)Does this distinction apply to the purchaser too, or is it confined to the seller?
9)
(a)Rava abides by the alternative explanation (that Rav and Shmuel are not subject to the opinions of Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah). He nevertheless reconciles the Beraisa with Rav who holds that even Rebbi Yehudah only accepts a financial stipulation, when the stipulator actually specifies the details (because then the second party, knowing that he is paying more than the article is worth and is genuinely Mochel, but not by Stam [where he is not Mochel, because he doesn't know that he is overpaying)]), as we learned in another Beraisa (and Rav's ruling refers to a case of Stam).
(b)This distinction applies to the seller (where he is being underpaid) as well as to the purchaser.
10)
(a)If Reuven gives Shimon two sets of wine ba'Amanah, one a good quality wine, and one of poor quality, what condition does the Tana of the Beraisa forbid him to make? Why is that?
(b)What may he stipulate?
(c)And he is obligated to deduct the Sechar Kataf and Sechar Gamal. What is ...
1. ... 'Sechar Kataf'?
2. ... 'Sechar Gamal'?
(d)What else is he obligated to pay him?
10)
(a)If Reuven gives Shimon two sets of wine ba'Amanah, one a good quality wine and one of poor quality, the Tana of the Beraisa forbids him to stipulate that Shimon sells the bad quality wine ba'Amanah (in the shop, bit by bit) and the good quality wine wholesale (to one purchaser [in order to save himself from having to pay for Shimon's work in selling the other barrel]), because that would constitute Ribis.
(b)He may stipulate however that either he sells both sets of wine ba'Amanah, or that he sells them wholesale.
(c)And he is obligated to deduct ...
1. ... 'S'char Kataf' for the transportation from his house to Shimon's shop.
2. ... 'S'char Gamal' which is the fee for hiring a camel for that purpose, should that be necessary.
(d)And he is also obligated to pay him the hotel fee, should that need arise.
11)
(a)Why will there be no problem regarding Ribis if Shimon does not receive part of the profits?
(b)How much did Tzadru'i, for example, get paid for their services? What are 'Tzadru'i'?
11)
(a)There will be no problem regarding Ribis if Shimon does not receive part of the profits since Reuven already pays him for his work (as we explained earlier).
(b)Tzadru'i (people who sell canvas clothes), for example, got paid on a scale of four Zuz per hundred, for their services.
12)
(a)Our Mishnah now discusses the Shi'ur of Ona'ah regarding coins. There are four Dinrim in a Sela, and six Ma'ah in a Dinar. How many Pundeyonim are there is a Ma'ah?
(b)And how many Isrin are there in ...
1. ... a Pundiyon?
2. ... a Sela?
(c)According to Rebbi Meir, a deficient Sela is not considered Ona'ah up to four Isrin (one Isar per Dinar). What fraction of the coin is that?
(d)According to Rebbi Yehudah, it is not considered Ona'ah - up to four Pundiyonos, a Pundiyon per Dinar (which is one twelfth). What is the Shi'ur, according to Rebbi Shimon?
12)
(a)Our Mishnah now discusses the Shi'ur of Ona'ah regarding coins. There are four Dinarim in a Sela, six Ma'ah in a Dinar and two Pundeyonim in a Ma'ah.
(b)There are ...
1. ... two Isrin in a Pundiyon.
2. ... and twenty-four in a Sela.
(c)According to Rebbi Meir, a deficient Sela is not considered Ona'ah up to four Isrin (one Isar per Dinar) which is one twenty-fourth.
(d)According to Rebbi Yehudah, it is not considered Ona'ah up to four Pundiyonos, a Pundiyon per Dinar (which is one twelfth); whereas according to Rebbi Shimon the Shi'ur is up to eight Pundiyonos, two Pundiyon per Dinar (which is equivalent to one sixth).
13)
(a)In town, the seller is permitted to retract up to the time it takes to show the coin to a banker. What is the time limit in the village?
(b)What does the Tana say about ...
1. ... a deficient coin which the seller returns, provided the purchaser recognizes it? How long after the sale must he accept it?
2. ... using a deficient coin to redeem Ma'aser Sheini?
(c)And what does the Tana mean when he permits its use on the grounds 've'Eino Choshesh, she'Eino Ela Nefesh Ra'ah' (though the connection will be explained later)?
13)
(a)In town, the seller is permitted to retract up to the time it takes to show the coin to a banker. The time limit in the village is until Erev Shabbos (when he will have discovered the real value of the coin when purchasing his Shabbos needs in the market).
(b)The Tana ...
1. ... rules that the purchaser must accept a deficient coin which the seller returns and which he recognizes even after twelve months.
2. ... permits the owner to use the deficient coin to redeem Ma'aser Sheini.
(c)And when he permits its use on the grounds 've'Eino Choshesh, she'Eino Ela Nefesh Ra'ah' (though the connection will be explained later), he means that someone who refuses to accept a coin on the grounds that it is slightly deficient is 'a bad soul' (unduly fussy).