Perek Eilu Metzi'os

1)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about someone who finds 'scattered fruit (i.e. grain), scattered money, small sheaves in the Reshus-ha'Rabim or rings of dried figs'?

(b)What is the significance of the fact that he found the small sheaves in the Reshus-ha'Rabim?

(c)What do the above, as well as 'bakers' loaves, strings of fish, cuts of meat, unprocessed shearings of wool, thin threads of flax or combed 'tongues' of wool' have in common? Why does the Tana permit the finder to keep them?

1)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that someone who finds 'scattered fruit (referring to grain), scattered money, small sheaves in the Reshus-ha'Rabim or rings of dried figs' - may keep them.

(b)The significance of the fact that he found the small sheaves in the Reshus-ha'Rabim is - that any Si'man (mark of identification) the lost article may initially had will probably have been obliterated by the public walking over it.

(c)All the above, as well as someone who finds 'bakers' loaves, strings of fish, cuts of meat, unprocessed shearings of wool, thin threads of flax or combed 'tongues' of wool' - have no Si'man. Consequently, the owner is Meya'esh (despairs) of getting them back, which in turn, renders them Hefker.

2)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah obligates the finder to return anything which has a Shinuy. What does he mean by that?

(b)What does Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar say about 'K'lei Anpuri'ah' (which will be explained later)?

2)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah obligates the finder to return anything which has a Shinuy, by which he means something unusual, such as a ring of dried figs with a piece of clay in the middle, or a loaf with a cavity with money in the cavity.

(b)Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar says - that 'K'lei Anpuri'ah' (which will be explained later) need not be announced.

3)

(a)How does Rebbi Yitzchak qualify 'scattered fruit' in our Mishnah?

(b)According to Rebbi Yitzchak, why can our Mishnah not be speaking about fruit that obviously ...

1. ... fell unbeknown to the owner?

2. ... was placed deliberately?

(c)So how does Rav Ukva bar Chama establish our Mishnah?

3)

(a)Rebbi Yitzchak qualifies 'scattered fruit' in our Mishnah - by confining it to not more than a Kav in an area of not less than four Amos.

(b)According to Rebbi Yitzchak, our Mishnah cannot be speaking about fruit that obviously ...

1. ... fell unbeknown to the owner - because then he would be permitted to keep even more than a Kav that he found in an area of even less than four Amos.

2. ... was placed deliberately - because then he would be obligated to return even less than a Kav in an area of more than four Amos.

(c)Rav Ukva bar Chama therefore establishes our Mishnah in a case - where he found it in the granary, after the corn had been threshed (which is not a regular case of loss), and it is a matter of whether the owner will return for the remains or not.

4)

(a)What is the underlying reason for this distinction? Why, if more fruit was scattered in a smaller area, would the finder be obligated to return it?

(b)Based on this distinction, Rebbi Yirmiyah asks a number of She'eilos: Why, in spite of the fact that ...

1. ... half a Kav in two Amos entails less trouble to pick up than one Kav in four Amos, might the finder nevertheless be permitted to keep it?

2. ... two Kabin in eight Amos is more valuable than one Kav in four Amos, might the finder nevertheless be permitted to keep it?

(c)Why might one then be obligated to return a Kav of ...

1. ... sesame-seeds (which are even more trouble to gather than grain) that one finds in the granary scattered in four Amos?

2. ... dates or pomegranates scattered in four Amos (even though they are less valuable than grain)?

(d)What is the outcome of all these She'eilos?

4)

(a)The underlying reason for this distinction is - because we assume that the owner will find it too troublesome to gather a Kav of grain in the space of four Amos (which he would not, if it was more grain in a smaller area).

(b)Based on this distinction, Rebbi Yirmiyah asks a number of She'eilos: Despite the fact that ...

1. ... half a Kav in two Amos entails less trouble to pick up than one Kav in four Amos, the finder might nevertheless be permitted to keep it - because it is less valuable (and the owner will not consider it worth his while to return for it).

2. ... two Kabin in eight Amos is more valuable than one Kav in four Amos, the finder might nevertheless be permitted to keep it - because it entails more trouble than it is worth for the owner to return and collect it.

(c)One might be obligated to return a Kav of ...

1. ... sesame-seeds (which are even more trouble to gather than grain) that one finds in the granary scattered in four Amos - because they are more valuable.

2. ... dates or pomegranates scattered in four Amos (even though they are less valuable than grain) - because they are larger and less trouble to gather.

(d)The outcome of all these She'eilos is - Teiku.

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5)

(a)Abaye holds 'Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as Lo Havi Yi'ush'. What does he mean?

(b)What does Rava say?

(c)Why, even in a case where the owner is not aware of the loss until after the finder finds it, will ...

1. ... Rava concede that if the lost article has a Si'man, 'Lo Havi Yi'ush'?

2. ... Abaye concede in a case where the incoming tide or an overflowing river swept away the lost article, that 'Havi Yi'ush'?

(d)Then in which case do they argue?

5)

(a)Abaye holds 'Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as Lo Havi Yi'ush' - (someone who finds a lost article whose owner has not yet been Meya'esh, is not permitted to keep it, even though he is bound to be Meya'esh later).

(b)Rava says - 'Havi Yi'ush'.

(c)Even in a case where the owner is not aware of the loss until after the finder finds it ...

1. ... Rava will concede that, if the lost article has a Si'man, 'Lo Havi Yi'ush' - because, the finder picked it up be'Isur (seeing as the owner is not expected to be'Me'ya'esh later [even in the event that he subsequently is]).

2. ... Abaye will concede that if the incoming tide or an overflowing river swept away the lost article, 'Havi Yi'ush' - because (as we shall see later), we learn this from a Pasuk.

(d)They argue specifically in a case - where the article has no Si'man and it possible for the owner to retrieve it at the time that it got lost.

6)

(a)If Abaye goes after the time of Yi'ush, what is Rava's reason?

(b)How do we reconcile Abaye with our Mishnah, which permits the finder to keep ...

1. ... scattered fruit?

2. ... scattered money?

3. ... rings of dried figs and bakers' loaves?

4. ... 'tongues' of purple wool?

(c)What does the Beraisa say about someone who finds money in a Shul, in a Beis ha'Medrash or in any public place that is frequented by large numbers of people?

(d)How does Rebbi Yitzchak explain this Beraisa, to answer the Kashya on Abaye from Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as?

6)

(a)Abaye goes after the time of Yi'ush - whereas according to Rava, Yi'ush works retroactively, seeing as, from the time that he lost the object, his mind was no longer on it, even after he discovered its loss.

(b)We reconcile Abaye with our Mishnah, which permits the finder to keep ...

1. ... scattered fruit - by establishing the Mishnah like Rav Ukva bar Chama (in the granary, as we explained above), and not by a lost article.

2. ... scattered money - by establishing it like Rebbi Yitzchak, who maintains that a person tends to feel in his pocket at regular intervals (as we shall see), so we assume that he was aware of the loss by the time the finder found it.

3. ... rings of dried figs and bakers' loaves - because, due to their weight, we assume that the owner discovers their loss almost immediately.

4. ... 'tongues' of purple wool - because likewise, we assume that the owner discovers their loss almost immediately, on account of their value.

(c)The Beraisa - permits someone who finds money in a Shul, in a Beis ha'Medrash or in any public place that is frequented by large numbers of people to keep it.

(d)To answer the Kashya on Abaye from Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as, Rebbi Yitzchak explains that this is - because a person tends feel in his pocket every few minutes, as we explained above.

7)

(a)Another Beraisa permits anyone to take Leket once the Nemushos have been and gone. According to Rebbi Yochanan, the 'Nemushos' are old men who walk on sticks. What does Resh Lakish say?

(b)What is the Tana's reason for this ruling (according to both Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish)?

(c)Seeing as the poor people who live in other towns do not know when the Nemushos have been, why is this not a Kashya on Abaye? Why is it not a matter of Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as?

7)

(a)Another Beraisa permits anyone to take Leket once the Nemushos have been and gone. According to Rebbi Yochanan, the 'Nemushos' are old men who walk on sticks. According to Resh Lakish - they are the second wave of collectors.

(b)The Tana's reason for this ruling (according to both Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish) is - because, once these people have been, the other poor people in the area will be Meya'esh from finding any more Leket in the fields.

(c)It makes not the least difference that the poor people who live in other towns do not know when the Nemushos have been - since they are Meya'esh already at the outset, because of the locals, who, they reckon, will have emptied the fields by the time they arrive.

8)

(a)What are 'Ketzi'os'?

(b)What does the Mishnah in Ma'asros say about Ketzi'os that one finds in the street or beside a field, with regard to ...

1. ... Gezel?

2. ... Ma'asros?

(c)And what does the Tana there say about ...

1. ... figs that one finds underneath a fig-tree?

2. ... olives and carobs that one finds underneath their respective trees?

8)

(a)'Ketzi'os' - are figs that have been cut off the tree with a special cutting-knife. As a result, juice now oozes from them and they need to be spread out in the field to dry.

(b)The Mishnah in Ma'asros rules - that Ketzi'os that one finds in the street or beside a field ...

1. ... are not subject to Gezel.

2. ... do not need to be Ma'asered.

(c)The Tana there says ...

1. ... the same about figs that one finds underneath a fig-tree ...

2. ... but that olives and carobs that one finds underneath their respective trees are subject to Gezel and must therefore be Ma'asered.

9)

(a)What can we ask on Abaye from the Reisha of the Beraisa?

(b)So how will Abaye explain the Tana's concession of ...

1. ... Ketzi'os?

2. ... figs under a fig-tree?

(c)And how will Rava explain the Seifa, where the Tana forbids the olives and the carobs that have fallen off the tree. Is that not because it is Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as? What does Rebi Avahu say?

(d)Then why, according to Rav Papa, can the finder take the figs that he finds under the fig-tree?

9)

(a)We can query Abaye from the Reisha of the Beraisa - where the Tana permits Ketzi'os and figs under a fig-tree, even though they appear to be cases of Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as.

(b)Abaye will explain that the Tana permits ...

1. ... Ketzi'os - because, due to their value, the owner keeps constant track of them.

2. ... figs under a fig-tree - because the owner knows that figs are constantly falling off the tree, in which case it is actually Yi'ush mi'Da'as.

(c)And according to Rava, the reason that the Tana in the Seifa forbids the olives and the carobs that have fallen off the tree is (not because it is Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as. but, Rebbi Avahu explains) - because the owner, knowing that everyone knows from whose trees they fell, he is not Meya'esh in the first place.

(d)The figs under the fig-tree are different, says Rav Papa - because, due to the fact that they become squashed as they hit the ground, the owner is Meya'esh.

10)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about a Ganav, a Gazlan and the River Yarden that took away objects from one person and deposited them by another?

(b)Why does the Tana mention specifically the River Yarden? What will be the Din in the case of another river?

10)

(a)The Beraisa rules that if a Ganav, a Gazlan and the River Yarden took away objects from one person and deposited them by another - what they took, they took, and what they gave, they gave (meaning that the recipient may keep the objects).

(b)The Tana mentions specifically the River Yarden - because he happened to live near the Yarden, but the same will apply to any other river.

11)

(a)Why is there no Kashya on Abaye from the cases of Gazlan and the River Yarden?

(b)How does Rav Papa establish the case of Ganav, whom the owner does not see, and which is therefore a question of Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as, to reconcile it with Abaye?

(c)But surely an armed robber is also a Gazlan (which the Tana already mentions)?

11)

(a)There is no Kashya on Abaye from the cases of Gazlan and the River Yarden - because the owner sees them, in which case it is Yi'ush mi'Da'as.

(b)To reconcile the case of Ganav (whom the owner does not see, which is therefore a question of Yi'ush she'Lo mi'Da'as) with Abaye, Rav Papa establishes it - by an armed robber (whom the owner does see).

(c)True, an armed robber is also a Gazlan (which the Tana already mentions). Nevertheless - the Tana presents two cases of Gazlan.