1)
(a)In a case where Reuven promises Shimon that if he decides to sell his field, he will sell it to to him, and he then sells it to Levi, on what grounds did ...
1. ... Rav Yosef rule that the field belongs to Shimon?
2. ... Abaye disagree with Rav Yosef's ruling?
(b)What is Abaye's source?
(c)On what grounds do we query it?
1)
(a)In a case where Reuven promises Shimon that if he decides to sell his field, he will sell it to to him, and he then sells it to Levi ...
1. ... Rav Yosef ruled that the field belongs to Shimon - because it speaks where, when Reuven made the promise, Shimon immediately made a Kinyan Sudar on the field.
2. ... Abaye disagreed with Rav Yosef's ruling - because Reuven had not yet fixed the price.
(b)Abaye's source is - our Mishnah, which rules (in connection with Yayin Nesech) 'Madad ad she'Lo Pasak, Damav Asurin'.
(c)We query it however - because maybe it is Yayin Nesech is that requires 'Pasak' as well as 'Madad', due to the Chumra of Yayin Nesech [even though in this particular case, it turns out to be a Kula]).
2)
(a)We nevertheless corroborate Abaye's opinion from Rav Huna, who proved it from a Beraisa, where the Tana rules that if Shimon draws Reuven's fruit-laden donkey-drivers or workers into his domain, he does not acquire the fruit. What if he fixed the price?
(b)Why does Shimon not acquire the fruit by means of ...
1. ... Meshichah?
2. ... his land (which generally acquires on behalf of the owner)?
(c)What does the Tana say in the Seifa there where Shimon first unloaded the donkey or the workers and then drew the fruit into his domain, assuming that he ...
1. ... fixed the price but did not measure them?
2. ... measured them but did not fix the price?
2)
(a)We nevertheless corroborate Abaye's opinion from Rav Huna, who proves it from a Beraisa, where the Tana rules that if Shimon draws Reuven's fruit-laden donkey-drivers or workers into his domain, he does not acquire the fruit - even if he fixed the price.
(b)Shimon does not acquire the fruit by means of ...
1. ... Meshichah - because Meshichah does not acquire people (and therefore it does not acquire what they are carrying either).
2. ... his land (which generally acquires on behalf of the owner) - until he unloads it from their backs and places it on the ground.
(c)The Tana rules in the Seifa that if Shimon first unloaded the donkey or the workers and then drew the fruit into his domain, assuming that he ...
1. ... fixed the price but did not measure them - he is not Koneh, and the same will apply if he ...
2. ... measured them but did not fix the price.
3)
(a)What did Rav Kahana rule in a similar case to the previous one, only where Reuven fixed the price with Shimon at a hundred Zuz, and subsequently sold it to Levi for a hundred and twenty?
(b)On what grounds did Rebbi Ya'akov from N'har Pakud object to Rav Kahana's ruling?
(c)Like whom is the Halachah?
3)
(a)In a similar case to the previous one, only where Reuven fixed the price with Shimon at a hundred Zuz, and subsequently sold it to Levi for a hundred and twenty, Rav Kahana ruled that - the field belongs to Shimon.
(b)Rebbi Ya'akov from N'har Pakud objected to Rav Kahana's ruling however - because Reuven never intended to sell it for less than the best price he could obtain for it, and that the higher offer forced him (and authorized him) to retract from the original sale ...
(c)... and that is the Halachah.
4)
(a)Why, if Reuven agrees to sell Shimon his field 'according to the price assessed by three people', do we validate the sale even if he then sold it to him for the price agreed upon by only two of the three people whom he subsequently chose?
(b)Why will the Din differ if he uses the term 'like three people say' (rather than 'assessed')?
(c)And what will the Din be if he stipulates 'according to the assessment of four people' or 'like four people say'?
(d)If Reuven stipulates 'the price assessed by three people', and after three people assess it, Shimon demands that three other people (greater experts) should assess it again, Rav Papa upholds Shimon's claim. On what grounds does Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua disagree with him?
(e)Like whom is the Halachah?
4)
(a)If Reuven agrees to sell Shimon his field 'according to the price assessed by three people', we validate the sale, even if he then sells it to him for the price agreed upon by only two of the three people whom he subsequently chose - because his choice of the Lashon 'assessed' plus the mention of three people indicates a Beis-Din, by whom we go after the majority opinion.
(b)The Din will differ if he uses the term 'like three people say' (rather than 'assessed') - because it no longer has connotations of a Beis-Din, in which case his specification requires all three to agree to the price ...
(c)... and the same will apply if he stipulates 'according to the assessment of four people', and all the more so where he says 'like four people say'.
(d)If Reuven stipulates 'the price assessed by three people', and after three people assess it, Shimon demands that three other people (greater experts) assess it again, Rav Papa upholds Shimon's claim. Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua disagrees with him - because who's to say which three are the bigger experts?
(e)The Halachah is like - Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua.
5)
(a)What does our Mishnah say about a case where ...
1. ... Reuven takes the funnel which he used to pour into a bottle belonging to a Nochri (which contained some Yayin Nesech [Tif'eres Yisrael]), and pours wine into a bottle belonging to a Yisrael?
2. ... a Nochri pours wine from a barrel belonging to a Yisrael into his own barrel?
(b)We learned in a Mishnah in Taharos that a Nitzok and a Ketapres are not considered joined, either as regards Tum'ah or as regards Taharah. What is ...
1. ... a 'Nitzok'?
2. ... a 'Ketapres'?
(c)What does the Tana mean when he says 'Eino Nitzok le'Inyan ...
1. ... Tum'ah'?
2. ... Taharah'?
(d)The third case included by the Tana in this list is Mashkeh Tofe'ach. What is 'Mashkeh Tofe'ach'?
(e)What is now the Halachah stated in the Mishnah?
5)
(a)Our Mishnah rules in a case where ...
1. ... Reuven takes the funnel which he used to pour into a a bottle belonging to a Nochri (which contained some Yayin Nesech [Tif'eres Yisrael]), and pours wine into a bottle belonging to a Yisrael, our Mishnah rules that - if there is an Ikeves (a lip that contains even a drop of wine from the previous use), the wine is forbidden.
2. ... a Nochri pours wine from a barrel belonging to a Yisrael into his own barrel that - the wine in the barrel from which he is pouring is permitted, whereas the wine in the barrel into which he is pouring is forbidden.
(b)We learned in a Mishnah in Taharos that a Nitzok and a Ketapres are not considered joined, either as regards Tum'ah or as regards Taharah. A ...
1. ... 'Nitzok' is - a stream of water flowing through the air.
2. ... 'Ketapres' is - a cascade of water flowing down a steep slope.
(c)When the Tana says 'Eino Nitzok le'Inyan ...
1. ... Tum'ah', he means that (on the assumption that the water at the foot of either of them is detached) - if it is touched by someone who is Tamei, the water that is at the top level remains Tahor.
2. ... Taharah', he means that - if either of the two are flowing from a Mikveh of forty Sa'ah into a pool that contains less than forty Sa'ah, the water in the pool is not considered a Kasher Mikveh.
(d)The third case included by the Tana in this list is - 'Mashkeh Tofe'ach' - where the water in between two pools is moist, but is insufficient to wet the hand to the point that it will in turn, wet whatever it subsequently touches).
(e)The Mishnah rules that if a Tamei person now touches that ground, the pool at either end remains Tahor.
6)
(a)When Rav Huna ruled that all three cases (in the Mishnah in Taharos) are considered a Chibur regarding Yayin Nesech, Rav Nachman asked him for his source. Why did Rav Nachman himself reject the (obvious inference from the) Mishnah in Taharos ('ha'Nitzok ve'ha'Ketapres u'Mashkeh Tofe'ach ... le'Inyan Tum'ah ve'Taharah') as the source?
(b)The Seifa of the Mishnah in Taharos considers an Ashboren a Chibur. What is an 'Ashboren'?
(c)How do we try to present our Mishnah ('Im Yesh bo Ikeves Yayin, Asur') as Rav Huna's source?
(d)We refute this suggestion however, by establishing our Mishnah like a Beraisa learned by Rebbi Chiya 'she'Pachsaso Tz'luchiso'. What does this mean?
6)
(a)When Rav Huna ruled that all three cases (in the Mishnah in Taharos) are considered a Chibur regarding Yayin Nesech, Rav Nachman asked him for his source. Rav Nachman himself rejected the (obvious inference from the) Mishnah in Taharos ('ha'Nitzok ve'ha'Ketapres u'Mashkeh Tofe'ach ... ') as the source - because just as we can extrapolate from there 'Ha le'Inyan Yayin Nesech, Havi Chibur', so too, can we extrapolate from the Seifa ('ha'Ashboren Chibur le'Tum'ah u'le'Taharah'), 'Ha le'Inyan Yayin Nesech, Lo Havi Chibur' (in which case, we cannot infer anything at all from the Mishnah).
(b)An Ashboren is - a crack in the ground which is full of water.
(c)We try to present our Mishnah ('Im Yesh bo Ikeves Yayin, Asur') as Rav Huna's source - because it appears that the wine in the Ikeves became Yayin Nesech through 'Nitzok', whilst the Nochri was using the funnel to pour wine into a bottle which contained Yayin Nesech ('a proof that Nitzok Havi Chibur').
(d)We refute this suggestion however, by establishing our Mishnah like a Beraisa learned by Rebbi Chiya 'she'Pachsaso Tzeluchiso', which means that - he had filled the bottle to the extent that the level of wine reached the Ikeves in the funnel (and not because of Nitzok).
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7)
(a)Why can we not extrapolate from Rebbi Chiya's Beraisa that Nitzok is not considered a Chibur?
(b)What do we infer from our Mishnah 'ha'Me'areh mi'Keli li'Keli, es she'Me'areh mimenu, Mutar'?
(c)What do we try to prove from here?
(d)Then why is the wine in the vessel from which one is pouring, not also forbidden?
7)
(a)We cannot extrapolate from Rebbi Chiya's Beraisa that Nitzok is not considered a Chibur - because it may well be that although the Tana of the Beraisa knew that 'she'Pachsaso Tzeluchiso' is considered a Chibur, he was not sure whether Nitzok is too.
(b)We infer from our Mishnah 'ha'Me'areh mi'K'li li'eK'li, es she'Me'areh mimenu, Mutar' - 'Ha de'Beini Beini, Asur' ...
(c)... an apparent proof - that Nitzok is a Chibur ...
(d)... and the reason that the wine in the vessel from which he is pouring is not forbidden is - because the Tana is speaking where he stopped pouring before the wine reached the floor of the barrel.
8)
(a)We reject the proof from the Reisha of our Mishnah however, by quoting the Seifa, which negates the inference from the Reisha. What does the Tana say in the Seifa?
(b)What does the Beraisa say about the wine that is being poured from a barrel into the wine-pit?
(c)How do we negate the proof from there that Nitzok is a Chibur by Yayin Nesech?
(d)In that case, why is the wine in the barrel not forbidden, too?
(e)At the end of the day, Rav Huna has no concrete source for his ruling 'Nitzok Havi Chibur' by Yayin Nesech. What is the Halachah?
8)
(a)We reject the proof from the Reisha of our Mishnah however, by quoting the Seifa - 'es she'Ira le'Tocho, Asur', from which we can infer, 'Ha de'Beini Beini, Shari' (thereby negating the inference from the Reisha).
(b)The Beraisa - declares Asur the wine that is pouring from a barrel into the wine-pit .
(c)We negate the proof from here that Nitzok is a Chibur by Yayin Nesech - by establishing the person who was pouring as a Nochri (whose force [Kocho] the Chachamim forbade).
(d)Nevertheless, the wine in the barrel is not forbidden, too - because the Chachamim confined their decree to wine that has left the barrel.
(e)At the end of the day, Rav Huna has no concrete source for his ruling 'Nitzok Havi Chibur'. Still - the Halachah is like him, since nobody actually disagrees with him.
9)
(a)Why did ...
1. ... Rav Chisda instruct the wine-pourers to throw the wine into the Nochri's barrel, rather than to pour it in directly?
2. ... Rava instruct the wine-pourers not to allow the Nochrim to help them pour the wine into a Yisrael's barrel?
(b)What is 'Gishta u'bas Gishta'?
(c)What does one then do with them?
(d)What did Rava rule in a case where a Nochri touched the wine that was pouring from the Gishta?
(e)What did Rava reply, when Rav Papa (or Rav Ada bar Masna or Ravina) asked him whether his ruling was based on the principle 'Nitzok Havi Chibur'?
9)
(a)The reason that ...
1. ... Rav Chisda instructed the wine-pourers to throw the wine into the Nochri's barrel, rather than to pour it is - because he held 'Nitzok Havi Chibur', in which case, the wine that remained in the Yisrael's barrel would otherwise become Asur.
2. ... Rava instructed the wine-pourers not to allow the Nochrim to help them pour the wine into a Yisrael's barrel is - in case they forgot and left the barrel entirely in the Nochri's hands, in which case all the wine in the second barrel would become Asur.
(b)'Gishta u'bas Gishta' is where one places an empty barrel beside a full barrel of wine, and after cutting the ends of two bamboo canes - 'Gishta' and 'bas-Gishta' diagonally ...
(c)... one joins them together in the shape of an upside-down 'vee', placing one end in the full barrel and sucks at the other end. Then, when the wine begins to flow, one places the other end in the empty barrel, and the wine flows freely from one barrel to the other.
(d)In a case where a Nochri touched the wine that was pouring from the Gishta - Rava forbade all the wine in the Gishta.
(e)When Rav Papa (or Rav Ada bar Masna or Ravina) asked Rava whether his ruling was based on the principle 'Nitzok Havi Chibur', he replied that - this case was different, because all the wine was automatically flowing from the Gishta to the bas Gishta (and it is as if the Nochri had touched the wine in the full barrel).
10)
(a)Mar Zutra b'rei de'Rav Nachman declared that 'K'nishk'nin' is permitted. What is 'K'nishk'nin'?
(b)What did he mean by declaring it permitted?
(c)On what condition did he permit it?
(d)Why is that?
(e)When Rabah bar Rav Huna visited the Resh Galusa, he permitted the members of his household to drink from the 'K'nishk'nin' together with a Nochri. What does a second Lashon cite Rabah bar Rav Huna as having done?
10)
(a)Mar Zutra b'rei de'Rav Nachman declared that 'K'nishk'nin' - a wine container to whose inside a number of tubes are attached vertically (like straws), protruding above the lip of the container, enabling a number people to drink simultaneously.
(b)By declaring it permitted, he meant that - one is permitted to drink from it at the same time as a Nochri ...
(c)... provided one finishes drinking before the Nochri ...
(d)... becomes once the Nochri stops drinking, the wine that remains in the container becomes Yayin Nesech.
(e)When Rabah bar Rav Huna visited the Resh Galusa, he permitted them to drink from the 'K'nishk'nin' together with a Nochri. A second Lashon cites Rabah bar Rav Huna - as having actually drunk from the K'nishk'nin together with a Nochri (see Tosfos DH 'Ika de'Amri').