More Discussions for this daf
1. Comparing Kidushin to Gitin 2. Through a Shtar 3. Three ways
4. Tosfos DH Hacha 5. Kesef 6. Kidushin Against A Woman's Wishes
7. Darko Shel Ish la'Chazor 8. Misas ha'Ba'al 9. Kicha Ikrei Kinyan
10. Use of Derech in Masculine and Feminine Terms 11. Kesef as Kidushin 12. Kicha Ikrei Kinyan
13. Tosfos DH I Nami 14. First Tosfos here and in Kesuvos 15. Tosfos DH I Nami
16. Parallels to Yibum and the 3 Methods 17. Who Owns the Ring 18. Kidushin 002: Tosfos DH b'Perutah
19. Derech-Davar 20. Conjunction of multiple acquisitions 21. Kidushin against a woman's will
22. Comparing the term "ha'Ishah Niknis" to "ha'Ish Mekadesh" 23. Get for Yibum 24. Eirusin
25. ha'Isha Niknes 26. Erusin vs. Nisu'in 27. Hiskadshi Li in Rashi
DAF DISCUSSIONS - KIDUSHIN 2

Joshua Danziger asks:

Hello kollel!

I have a general question in kiddushin. I though that al pi halacha, the husband owns all of his wife's property, whether nichsei melug or tzon barzel. My question is, if he gives her a ring worth a perutah, but then as she becomes his wife he immediately owns it again, has he really given her anything?

Thank you!

Josh

The Kollel replies:

The Tzofnas Paneach (Rogachover), in Hilchos Ishus 3:1, explains that because of your question the custom is to be Mekadesh with a ring, which, like her clothing, is totally hers without any control of the husband.

It used to be that Kidushin/Erusin took place separately, and the Nisu'in was at a later date, so there is no question, since during the Erusin period the husband does not have rights to her Nichsei Melug or Nichsei Tzon Barzel. But nowadays that Erusin and Nisu'in are done together, using a ring helps.

Regarding her clothing, see Kesuvos 54a, Rema EH 90:14, and Beis Shmuel EH 85:6.

All the best,

Reuven Weiner