Hi
Id like to ask whats the difference between the kipin and the rashin in light of what Rashi writes that Rashin means the part of the wave that got in touch to the ground and kipin is the part of the same wave but what is "in the air".
If we would take a shot of the momento the wave gets in touch to the ground, we eould find a person standing in the spot that the wave touches the ground, and a Keli thrown and fixed in the most high place of the arch the wave drew. Why would be the person standing in the ground be more likely to become tahor with this wave than the keli in the kipin?
Both are not in the ground with the wave mamash...
I dont know if my point was well made...
thank you
Joseph Kayeri, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Dear Joseph,
The problem is not because maybe the item is not being covered by the water; both by Rashin and Kipin we assume the items are submerged.
The reason is that Kipin is not a Mikvah at all, since there is no Mikvah in the air (Rashi), but the water that is on the ground is like a regular Mikvah.
All the best,
Reuven Weiner
My problem actually is : why is the kifin different from the rashin?
Harei the kipin makes part of the same wave as the rashin!
The wave makes a continuous "line" , a bow! The middle of this bow is the kifin and the water that is touching the ground is the rashin. The water that covers/submerges the BODY of the person (different from his feet, which actually is being submerged by water that STANDS ON ground) is ALSO IN THE AIR! Let me know if now I have the Rav's understanding of my point. I am saying that if we took a microscope and would zoom in the whole course of the bow of the wave, the only tiny and subtle part different from the rest of the bow is the part that actually is touching the ground effectivelly, Everything else is also flying in the air!
I understand your question. It seems that Rashi learns as follows:
The Rashin case is for a person on the ground. The water purifying him includes the water actually on the ground and its continuation higher, and that can be considered grounded. The case of Kipin involves a Keli in the air immersed only in water in the air, which is not considered a valid immersion.
All the best,
Reuven Weiner