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BERACHOS 41 - Dedicated by Rav Shalom Kelman in honor of Hagaon Rav Yehudah Copperman, author of the annotated edition of the Meshech Chochmah, and most recently "Mavo l'Limud Torah."
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1) PRECEDENCE AMONG DIFFERENT SPECIES
(a) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): If there are various foods...
(b) (Ula): They argue when the foods have the same blessing
-- R. Yehudah holds that the seven species have
precedence, Chachamim hold that Chaviv (what he prefers)
has precedence;
1. If they have different blessings, he must make both
blessings, all agree that he blesses first on
whichever he wants.
(c) Question (Beraisa): If one wants to eat a radish and an
olive, he blesses [just once] on the radish, and exempts
the olive.
(d) Answer: The case is, the radish is primary (he eats the
olive just to weaken the sharpness of the radish).
(e) Question (Seifa - R. Yehudah): He blesses on the olive,
for it is one of the seven species.
1. Does R. Yehudah argue with the following Mishnah?
2. (Mishnah): The general rule is, if one eats a
primary and a secondary food together, he blesses
only on the primary, this exempts the secondary.
3. Suggestion: Perhaps indeed he argues with it!
4. Rejection (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): If he eats the
olive on account of the radish, he blesses on the
radish and exempts the olive.
(f) Answer: Really, the radish is primary; R. Yehudah and
Chachamim argue about something else;
1. The Mishnah is abbreviated, it means as follows: if
one wants to eat a radish and an olive, he blesses
on the radish and exempts the olive;
2. This is when the radish is primary; if not, all
agree that he blesses on both.
3. In general, when there are two species of the same
blessing, he blesses on whichever he wants [and
exempts the other];
4. R. Yehudah says, he blesses on the olive, for it is
one of the seven species.
(g) (R. Ami or R. Yitzchak Nafcha): They argue when the
blessings are the same; R. Yehudah holds that the seven
species have precedence, Chachamim hold that Chaviv has
precedence;
1. If they have different blessings, all agree that he
must make both blessings.
(h) (The other of R. Ami and R. Yitzchak Nafcha): They argue
even when the blessings are different.
(i) Question: We understand the first opinion, but according
to the second opinion, when the blessings are different,
what do they argue about?
(j) Answer (R. Yirmeyah): They argue about which he blesses
on first.
1. (Rav Yosef): A species that is earlier in the verse,
"Eretz Chitah u'Se'orah v'Gefen u'Se'enah v'Rimon
Eretz Zeis Shemen u'Devash" has precedence regarding
Berachos (to bless on it first).
(k) He argues with R. Chanan.
1. (R. Chanan): The entire verse alludes to Shi'urim:
2. Wheat -- (Mishnah): If one enters Bayis ha'Menuga
with clothes resting on his shoulder, and sandals
and rings on his hands (not on the proper fingers),
he and his clothes are Teme'im immediately;
i. If he enters wearing his clothes, sandals and
rings (on the proper fingers), he is Tamei
immediately, his clothes are Teme'im only after
he tarries the time needed to eat a half a loaf
of bread;
ii. We gauge the time to eat wheat bread (not
barley), reclining, with an accompaniment on
the bread.
3. Barley -- a bone of a Mes at least the size of a
barley kernel has Tum'as Maga (touching) and Tum'as
Masa (moving), but not Tum'as Ohel;
4. Grapes -- a Nazir is liable for [eating produce of
vines] the quantity of a Revi'is of wine;
5. (This is more than a Revi'is of water, for wine is
thick -- when one fills a vessel above the brim with
wine it does not spill out as soon as when it is
filled with water. The difference depends on the
dimensions of the vessel -- we must gauge the
Revi'is according to a standard Revi'is vessel.)
6. Figs -- one who transfers food (from Reshus
ha'Yachid to Reshus ha'Rabim or vice-versa) the
volume of a dried fig on Shabbos is liable;
7. Pomegranates -- (Mishnah): If a [wooden] vessel of a
Ba'al ha'Bayis (i.e. not a craftsman) has a hole the
size of a pomegranate, it is Tahor.
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8. Olives -- (R. Yosi b'Rebbi Chanina): All the
Shi'urim of Eretz Yisrael are a k'Zayis.
9. Objection: This cannot be -- each of the other
fruits is also a Shi'ur!
10. Correction: Most of the Shi'urim of Eretz Yisrael
are a k'Zayis (e.g. liability for eating forbidden
fat, blood, Pigul, etc.).
11. Dates -- one who eats the volume of a large date on
Yom Kipur is liable.
(l) Rav Yosef argues with Rav Chanan, for the Shi'urim are
not written in the Torah -- they are mid'Rabanan
(elsewhere, the Gemara says "a tradition from Moshe from
Sinai"), the verse is merely an Asmachta.
(m) Rav Chisda and Rav Hamnuna were eating together; there
were dates and pomegranates, Rav Hamnuna blessed on a
date.
(n) Rav Chisda: Don't you hold like Rav Yosef, who says that
a species mentioned earlier in the verse has precedence
regarding Berachos?!
(o) Rav Hamnuna: Dates are the second species after [the
second mention in the verse of] "Eretz," it has
preference over pomegranates, which are the fifth after
[the first] "Eretz."
(p) Rav Chisda: If only we had iron legs to [follow you
around constantly] and hear your wisdom!
2) BLESSING ON FOODS THAT ARE SERVED DURING A MEAL
(a) (Rav Huna and Rav Nachman): If figs and grapes were
served in a meal, one must bless on them beforehand, but
not afterwards (they are included in Birkas ha'Mazon).
(b) (Rav Sheshes): He must bless on them beforehand and
afterwards;
1. The only thing that requires a blessing beforehand
but not afterwards is Pas ha'Ba b'Kisnin. (All agree
that such bread is not usually the basis of a meal.
The Shulchan Aruch cites opinions that it is bread
with "pockets" (containing honey or nuts), or made
from a flavored dough (kneaded with oil, honey, or
milk), or brittle wafers.)
(c) He argues with R. Chiya:
1. (R. Chiya): Bread exempts all kinds of food, wine
exempts all kinds of drinks.
(d) (Rav Papa): The Halachah is:
1. Version #1 (Rashi): Things eaten on account of the
meal (accompaniments for bread) during the meal do
not require a blessing beforehand or afterwards;
2. Things eaten not on account of the meal during the
meal (i.e. for satiation but not as accompaniments)
require a blessing beforehand, but not afterwards;
3. Things normally eaten after the meal (e.g. fruits,
even if eaten during the meal) require a blessing
beforehand and afterwards.
4. Version #2 (Tosfos): Things eaten on account of the
meal (i.e. things normally eaten in a meal with
bread), if eaten during the meal do not require a
blessing beforehand or afterwards;
5. Things not normally eaten on account of the meal,
require a blessing beforehand during the meal, but
not afterwards;
6. Things eaten after the meal (i.e. it was customary
to remove the bread, and serve other food
afterwards) require a blessing beforehand and
afterwards.
(e) Question: Why do things eaten on account of the meal
during the meal not require a blessing beforehand or
afterwards?
(f) Answer (Ben Zoma): This is because [the blessing on]
bread exempts them.
(g) Question: If so, bread should also exempt wine!
(h) Answer (Ben Zoma): Wine is different, we often bless on
it even without desire to drink it (e.g. Kidush).
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