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Nedarim Chart #1
(A) "... SHE'OCHEL LECHA" |
(B) "... SHE'LO OCHEL LECHA" |
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1) | "KORBAN" (13a) |
Asur (R. Meir) Mutar(R. Yehudah)(1) |
Mutar(2) |
2) | "HA KORBAN" (13a-13b) |
Mutar(2) | Mutar(2) |
3) | "HA'KORBAN", "K'KORBAN" (13a-13b) |
Asur | Mutar(2) |
4) | "LA'KORBNAN" (11b, 13a) |
Asur(3) | Asur(6) |
5) | "CHULIN" (11b, 13b) |
Mutar | Mutar(R. Meir)(4) Asur (R. Yehudah) |
6) | "LA'CHULIN" (10b, 11b) |
Mutar(R. Meir)(4) Asur (R. Yehudah)(5) |
Asur(7) |
7) | "LO CHULIN" (11b) |
Mutar(R. Meir)(4) Asur (R. Yehudah) |
Asur(7) |
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FOOTNOTES:
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(1) Rebbi Yehudah requires the word that the Neder is made with to have the
prefix "Kaf" (Kaf ha'Dimyon). Even though the word "Pigul" may be used in a
Neder without the "Kaf," since it has a pure connotation of Isur, Rebbi
Yehudah maintains that the word "Korban" alone does not connote Isur; rather
it implies the *procedure* of offering a Korban. Alternatively, without the
letter "Kaf," the word "Korban" implies "by the life of the Korban"
("b'Chayei Korban") -- like "Korban *she'Lo* Ochel Licha," see 1:B. (RAN 11a)
(2) This is not a Neder because it means "b'Chayei Korban," "by the life of
the Korban," which is meaningless as a Neder.
(3) Even though "La'Korban" can also imply "Lo Korban" ("it shall *not* be a
Korban"), nevertheless, since it also has the connotation of "l'Korban" ("it
shall be a Korban"), we rule stringently and the Neder takes effect. (RAN
11b)
(4) Rebbi Meir holds that "Michlal Lav Iy Atah Shome'a Hen," that the
converse of a statement cannot be inferred from the statement automatically.
(Even when he says "Lo Chulin," there is a since the statement was said in
the negative and did not refer to Kodesh outright, we cannot infer the
inverse from the statement -- see Insights; RAN 11b and beginning of 14a).
(5) This is because "la'Chulin" implies "*Lo* Chulin," meaning Hekdesh.
(6) Even according to Rebbi Meir, who normally holds that "Michlal Lav Iy
Atah Shome'a Hen," in this case the Neder takes effect. The reason for this
is because it is as if the person said, "l'Korban Yehei, *l'Fichach* Lo Ochel
Lecha" -- "it shall be Korban, and therefore I shall not eat from you."
(7) See above, footnote 6. Even if the person does not say "l'Korban," but he
says "la'Chulin" or "Lo Chulin," Rebbi Meir here agrees that we can infer the
inverse from his statement since the person concluded his statement by
saying, "*she'Lo* Ochel Licha" (RAN 11a, and Rishonim).
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