1)
(a)How many kinds of bread did the Milu'im (the consecration of the Mishkan) require?
(b)The two of those three did the Nezirus require?
(c)How many Kabin Yerushalmiyos of flour did the latter comprise?
(d)That is equivalent to six Esronim 'va'Aduyan'. What does 'va'Aduyan mean'?
1)
(a)The Milu'im (the consecration of the Mishkan) required - the same three kinds of bread as the Matzah loaves of the Todah (Chalos, R'kikin and Revuchah).
(b)The Nezirus required - Chalos and R'kikin.
(c)The latter therefore comprised ten Kabin Yerushalmiyos (instead of fifteen).
(d)That is equivalent to six Esronim 'va'Aduyan' - which is another way of saying 'six Esronim plus', and refers to the extra two thirds (three and a third Esronim for each kind, like the Lachmei Todah).
2)
(a)Rav Chisda Amar Rav Chama bar Gurya quotes the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Milu'im) "u'mi'Sal ha'Matzos asher Lifnei Hash-m Lakach Chalas Matzah Achas ve'Chalas Lechem Shemen Achas ve'Rakik Echad". Which two facts in this Pasuk are unarguable?
(b)What is Rav Chisda then trying to prove from there? How does he interpret "ve'Chalas Lechem Shemen Achas"?
(c)Rav Ivya however, refutes this proof, by suggesting that perhaps it is Ansa de'Mishcha. What might 'Ansa de'Mishchah' be, besides an oily loaf?
(d)So we cite a D'rashah by Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda Amar Rav Tivla on the Pasuk there "Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav asher Yakrivu la'Hashem be'Yom Himashach Oso". What problem do we have with this Pasuk?
2)
(a)Rav Chisda Amar Rav Chama bar Gurya quotes the Pasuk (in connection with the Milu'im) "u'mi'Sal ha'Matzos asher Lifnei Hash-m Lakach Chalas Matzah Achas ve'Chalas Lechem Shemen Achas ve'Rakik Echad". It is unarguable - that "Chalas Matzah" is the equivalent of the Matzah Chalos of the Lachmei Todah, and the "Rakik" is the equivalent of the Matzah wafers there.
(b)Rav Chisda is trying to prove from "ve'Chalas Lechem Shemen Achas" - that they also brought the Revuchah.
(c)Rav Ivya however, refutes this proof, by suggesting that perhaps it is Ansa de'Mishcha, which besides an oily loaf, might also mean - a cake consisting entirely of oil.
(d)So we cite a D'rashah by Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda Amar Rav Tivla on the Pasuk "Zeh Korban Aharon u'Vanav asher Yakrivu la'Hashem be'Yom Himashach Oso". The problem with this Pasuk is - why it connects the Korban of the Kohanim to the anointing of their father (Aharon).
3)
(a)What do we mean when we answer 'Ela Makish Chinucho le'Moshcho'? To whose Chinuch and whose Meshichah is this referring?
(b)So what do we learn from the Chavitin of the Kohen Gadol?
(c)According to Rav Chisda, a Kohen Gadol who serves in that capacity for the first time has to bring two Esronos ha'Eifah. Why is that?
(d)Rav Ashi says three. How must he be speaking for him not to argue with Rav Chisda?
3)
(a)When we answer 'Ela Makish Chinucho le'Moshcho' - we are comparing the inauguration of the Kohen Hedyot (including the Milu'im) to the daily Korban Chavitin of the Kohen Gadol ...
(b)... which was a Revuchah (a proof that the Milu'im included a Revuchah).
(c)According to Rav Chisda, a Kohen who serves as Kohen Gadol for the first time has to bring two Esronos ha'Eifah - one for his inauguration, and the other as his daily Minchas Chavitin.
(d)Rav Ashi says three. He does not argue with Rav Chisda - because he is speaking where the Kohen has previously not served as a Kohen Hedyot, in which case, he needs to bring a Korban Chinuch for that, too.
4)
(a)The Beraisa Darshens from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Todah) "al Zevach Todas Shelamav" 'Lerabos Shalmei Nazir'. What does the Tana learn from there, besides the Shi'ur of ten Kabin Yerushalmiyos?
(b)And the word "Matzos" comes to refute the suggestion 'Yachol le'Chol Mah she'Amur ba'Inyan'. What does this mean?
(c)How does Rav Papa explain this Limud? How does he preclude Shalmei Nazir from the Revuchah, from "Matzos"?
(d)Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael learns this from the Pasuk in Naso (in connection with the Shalmei Nazir) "ve'Sal Matzos ... Chalos ... u'Rekikei ... ". How does he learn it from there?
4)
(a)The Beraisa Darshens from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Todah) "al Zevach Todas Shelamav" 'Lerabos Shalmei Nazir'. Besides the Shi'ur of ten Kabin Yerushalmiyos, the Tana learns from there - the Din of a Revi'is of oil (exactly like the Matzah Chalos of the Lachmei Todah (only minus the Revuchah).
(b)And the word "Matzos" comes to refute the suggestion 'Yachol le'Chol Mah she'Amur ba'Inyan' - with reference to the Revuchah.
(c)Rav Papa explains - that we preclude Shalmei Nazir from the Revuchah, from the fact that in the Parshah of the Lachmei Todah, the Torah mentions the word "Matzos" both in connection with the Matzah Chalos and the R'kikin, but not by the Revuchah.
(d)Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael learns this from the Pasuk in Naso (in connection with the Shalmei Nazir) "ve'Sal Matzos ... Chalos ... u'Rekikei ... " - which is a 'Klal u'Prat', and we rule 'Ein bi'Ch'lal Ela Mah she'bi'P'rat' (that the 'K'lal' contains only what is in the 'P'rat').
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5)
(a)What does our Mishnah say about a Todah that is Shechted in the Azarah, whilst its loaves ...
1. ... are outside the walls?
2. ... are not yet properly baked?
(b)What if all the loaves are properly baked except for one?
(c)What does the Tana consider properly baked?
5)
(a)Our Mishnah rules that if a Todah that is Shechted in the Azarah, whilst its loaves ...
1. ... are outside the walls - the loaves are not sanctified.
2. ... are not yet properly baked - they are not sanctified either ...
(b)... even if all the loaves are properly baked except for one.
(c)The Tana considers the loaves properly baked - if the surface is crusted.
6)
(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, 'the walls' refers to Beis Pagi. Where is 'Beis Pagi'?
(b)What does Resh Lakish say?
(c)What is the basis of their Machlokes
6)
(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, 'the walls' refers to Beis Pagi - which is outside the wall of the Har ha'Bayis.
(b)Resh Lakish maintains - that 'the walls' refers to the walls of the Azarah.
(c)The basis of their Machlokes, based on the fact that the Torah writes "al Zevach Todas Shelamav" is - whether "al" implies 'immediately next to' (Resh Lakish) or not (Rebbi Yochanan).
7)
(a)We learned in a Mishnah in Pesachim that if someone Shechts a Korban Pesach (or even a Korban Tamid, according to Rebbi Yehudah) or performs Z'rikas ha'Dam, with Chametz in his possession, he transgresses a La'av. Based on the Pasuk "ve'Lo Sishchat al Chametz Dam Zivchi", where will the Chametz have to be for the Shochet or the Zorek to transgress, according to ...
1. ... Resh Lakish?
2. ... Rebbi Yochanan?
(b)Why do Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish need to argue in both cases? Had they argued in the case of ...
1. ... the Korban Pesach, why might we have thought that Rebbi Yochanan argues specifically there, but will agree with Resh Lakish in the case of the Todah?
2. ... the Todah, why might we have thought that Resh Lakish will agree with Rebbi Yochanan in that of the Pesach?
7)
(a)We learned in a Mishnah in Pesachim that if someone Shechts a Korban Pesach (or even a Korban Tamid, according to Rebbi Yehudah) or performs Z'rikas ha'Dam with Chametz in his possession, he transgresses a La'av. Based on the Pasuk "ve'Lo Sishchat al Chametz Dam Zivchi", for the Shochet or the Zorek to transgress, according to ...
1. ... Resh Lakish - the Chametz will have to be in the Azarah ...
2. ... according to Rebbi Yochanan - it can be anywhere in his possession.
(b)Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish need to argue in both cases, because had they argued in the case of ...
1. ... the Korban Pesach, we might have thought that Rebbi Yochanan argues specifically there - seeing as the Chametz is, it is subject to an Isur, but when it comes to the Lachmei Todah - he will agree with Resh Lakish that they only become sanctified if they are inside the Azarah together with the Korban.
2. ... the Todah, we might have thought that Resh Lakish will agree with Rebbi Yochanan in the case of the Pesach - because wherever the Chametz is, it is subject to an Isur.
8)
(a)What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Tzav ...
1. ... "al Chalos Lechem Chametz Yakriv"?
2. ... "Yakriv Korbano"?
3. ... "Zevach Todas"?
(b)Another Beraisa rules that one is Yotzei on Pesach with Matzah Na and with Matzah that is baked in a pan on Pesach. How does Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel define 'Matzah Na'?
(c)What does the Tana say about Matzah that has been baked in a pan?
(d)To which Korban does Rava extend these Halachos?
(e)Bearing in mind that by both the Torah writes "Lechem", why might we neverthess have thought otherwise?
8)
(a)The Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Tzav ...
1. ... "al Chalos Lechem Chametz Yakriv" - that the loaves only become sanctified once they have reached the stage of 'bread'.
2. ... "Yakriv Korbano" - that it is the Shechitah of the Korban that sanctifies the loaves.
3. ... "Zevach Todas" - that if one Shechts the Todah she'Lo li'Shemo, the loaves do not become sanctified.
(b)Another Beraisa rules that one is Yotzei on Pesach with Matzah Na and with Matzah that is baked in a pan. Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel defines 'Matzah Na' as - Matzah that is baked to the extent that when one breaks a piece off, threads of dough do not accompany it), and so is ...
(c)... Matzah that is baked in a pan.
(d)Rava extends this Halachah to - the Lachmei Todah.
(e)Despite the fact that by both the Torah writes "Lechem", we might neverthess have thought otherwise - because, as we have already learned, the Torah requires the Lachmei Todah to be a complete loaf (and a loaf that is not completely baked is liable to break into pieces when one moves it).
9)
(a)According to Chizkiyah, if one Shechts a Todah on eighty Chalos, forty of them are sanctified. What is the reason for this (seeing as a Todah requires only forty loaves)?
(b)What does Rebbi Yochanan say?
(c)Rebbi Zeira qualifies the Machlokes. According to him, in which case does even Rebbi Yochanan concede that forty loaves are sanctified?
(d)In which case are they then arguing?
(e)What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
9)
(a)According to Chizkiyah, if one Shechts a Todah on eighty Chalos, forty of them are sanctified - because the owner only sanctified the other forty 'le'Achrayus' (to cover the first forty should they get lost).
(b)Rebbi Yochanan maintains - that none of the loaves are sanctified.
(c)According to Rebbi Zeira, even Rebbi Yochanan will concede that forty loaves are sanctified - if the owner specifically stated that only forty out of the eighty loaves should be sanctified (see Tosfos DH 'Likdeshu').
(d)They are arguing where he designated eighty loaves S'tam ...
(e)... and the basis of their Macklokes is whether he had in mind 'le'Acharayus' (Chizkiyah) or to bring a big Korban (Rebbi Yochanan).
10)
(a)According to Abaye however, their dispute covers a case where the owner specifically sanctifies all eighty loaves, and they are arguing over the K'li Shareis in which the loaves are placed. What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
(b)Rav Papa disagrees. In his opinion, it is not the K'li Shareis over which they are arguing, but the knife which is used to Shecht the Korban (which sanctifies the loaves). What does he hold regarding a 'K'li Shareis'?
(c)On what grounds does Rabbi Yochanan invalidate all eighty loaves?
(d)In which point does Chizkiyah then disagree with Rebbi Yochanan?
(e)In the second Lashon, Rav Papa holds 'K'lei Shareis Ein Mekadshin Ela mi'Da'as', and again a knife is different. What is now the basis of their Machlokes? Why does Chizkiyah validate the forty loaves?
10)
(a)According to Abaye however, their dispute covers a case where the owner specifically sanctifies all eighty loaves, and they are arguing over the K'li Shareis in which the loaves are placed, and the basis of their Machlokes is - whether 'K'li Shareis Mekadshin she'Lo le'Da'as' (the K'li Shareis in which the loaves are placed [at the time of the Shechitah] only sanctifies what needs to be sanctified [i.e. forty loaves], despite the owner's statement to the contrary' [Chizkiyah]) or not (Rebbi Yochanan).
(b)Rav Papa disagrees. In his opinion, it is not the K'li Shareis over which they are arguing, but the knife which is used to Shecht the Korban (which sanctifies the loaves). In fact, he maintains that even according to Rebbi Yochanan - a K'li Shareis only sanctifies whatever needs to be sanctified ...
(c)... and Rebbi Yochanan invalidates all eighty loaves - because the knife, (which is not a receptacle, is not considered a K'li Shareis, and therefore) sanctifies whatever the owner declares.
(d)According to Chizkiyah - the knife too, is considered a K'li Shareis, and sanctifies she'Lo le'Da'as, like other K'lei Shareis.
(e)In the second Lashon, Rav Papa holds 'K'lei Shareis Ein Mekadshin Ela mi'Da'as', and again a knife is different. But this time - the basis of their Machlokes is - whether the knife (which is already unique in that it sanctifies even though it is not a receptacle, is also unique in that it) sanctifies only what needs to be sanctified (Chizkiyah) or not (Rebbi Yochanan).
11)
(a)Our Mishnah rules that if the Todah is Shechted with a Machsheves Chutz li'Zemanah or Chutz li'Mekomah, the loaves are nevertheless sanctified. What status do they have?
(b)What does the Tana say about the loaves, in a case where the Korban is found to be a T'reifah after the Shechitah? Why is that?
(c)If the animal turns out to be a Ba'al-Mum, Rebbi Eliezer declares the loaves sanctified. What do the Chachamim say?
(d)What does the Tana say about the loaves of ...
1. ... a Todah that was Shechted she'Lo li'Shemah?
2. ... the Eil ha'Milu'im or the two Kivsei Atzeres that were Shechted she'Lo li'She'mah?
11)
(a)Our Mishnah rules that if the Todah is Shechted with a Machsheves Chutz li'Zemanah or Chutz li'Mekomah, the loaves are nevertheless sanctified - with the status of Pigul.
(b)The Tana rules in a case where the Korban is found to be a T'reifah after the Shechitah - that the loaves are not sanctified, because they were Pasul already prior to the Shechitah.
(c)If the animal turns out to be a Ba'al-Mum, Rebbi Eliezer declares the loaves sanctified - whereas the Chachamim rule that they are not.
(d)The Tana rules that the loaves of ...
1. ... a Todah that was Shechted she'Lo li'Shemah - are not sanctified ...
2. ... and the same applies to the loaves of an Eil ha'Milu'im or of the two Kivsei Atzeres that were Shechted she'Lo li'She'mah.