1)

(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei to which one adds oil becomes Pasul. What does Resh Lakish say?

(b)How will Resh Lakish explain the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with a Minchas Chotei) "Lo Yasim alehah Shemen ... "?

(c)Rebbi Yochanan queries Resh Lakish from a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama says Charev she'Nis'arev be'Balul, Yakriv. Why is that?

(d)What does Rebbi Yehudah there say?

1)

(a)According to Rebbi Yochanan, the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei to which one adds oil becomes Pasul. Resh Lakish says - on the contrary, one mixes in leftover oil from the Log of other Menachos (see Tosfos DH 'Hu Atzmo').

(b)Resh Lakish will explain the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with a Minchas Chotei) "Lo Yasim alehah Shemen ... " - as a prohibition not to add oil to a Minchas Chotei before the Kemiztah, like one does to other Menachos.

(c)Rebbi Yochanan queries Resh Lakish from a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama says Charev she'Nis'arev be'Balul, Yakriv - because Ein Olin Mevatlin Zeh es Zeh.

(d)Rebbi Yehudah says - Lo Yakriv.

2)

(a)What will the Rabbanan say if some Sheyarei Shemen (which are not Olin) fall on to the dry Minchah that poses a Kashya on Resh Lakish?

(b)Rebbi Yochanan assumes that Chorev and Balul refer to the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei and Balul, to that of a Minchas Nedavah respectively. How does Resh Lakish interpret them, to refute R. Yochanan's Kashya)?

(c)What is the difference in this regard between Parim and Eilim (on the one hand), and Kevasim (on the other)? What is the ratio of Lugin per Isaron?

(d)What will be the Din if the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei became mixed up with that of a Balul, according to Resh Lakish.

2)

(a)If some Sheyarei Shemen fell on to the dry Minchah - the Rabbanan will agree that Lo Yakriv (a Kashya on Resh Lakish).

(b)Rebbi Yochanan assumes that Chorev and Balul refer to the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei and Balul, to that of a Minchas Nedavah respectively. Resh Lakish interprets them as - Minchas Parim ve'Eilim and Minchas Kevasim respectively, thereby refuting R. Yochanan's Kashya.

(c)The difference between Parim and Eilim (on the one hand), and Kevasim (on the other) is - six Lugin and three Esronim (Parim), four Lugin and two Esronim (Eilim), a ratio of one Log per two Esronim, and three Lugin and one Isaron (Kevasim), a ratio of one in three.

(d)If the Kometz of a Minchas Chotei becomes mixed up with that of a Balul, according to Resh Lakish - even Rebi Yehudah will agree that it is brought.

3)

(a)What problem did Rebbi Yochanan have with Resh Lakish's answer, based on the Mishnah itself?

(b)To which Resh Lakish replied Pirushi ka'Mefaresh. What did he mean by that?

3)

(a)The problem Rebbi Yochanan had with Resh Lakish's answer was that - in the very same Mishnah, Rebbi Yehudah and the Tana Kama mention Minchas Parim ve'Eilim which become mixed up with Kevasim independently (even before Charev and Balul).

(b)To which Resh Lakish replies Pirushi ka'Mefaresh, meaning that - the Mishnah is equating Minchas Parim ve'Eilim which became mixed up with Kevasim with Charev be'Balul, since even there, the Rabbanan hold Yakriv.

4)

(a)Rava asked what the Din will be if the Kohen squeezes the oil out of the Kometz on to the Ma'arachah, before placing the Kometz on top of it. Why might it not be a case of Chaser Komtzo?

(b)In a case where someone sacrifices ba'Chutz a limb which only comprises a k'Zayis together with the bone, Rebbi Yochanan rules Chayav. What does Resh Lakish say?

(c)What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(d)What did Ravina now suggest to Rav Ashi

(e)Rav Ashi replied that the She'eilah is applicable both according to Rebbi Yochanan and according to Resh Lakish. Why might even ...

1. ... Rebbi Yochanan concede that, in our case (of the Kometz and the oil), Chiburei Olin La'av ke'Olin Dami?

2. ... Resh Lakish concedes that in our case Chiburei Olin ke'Olin Dami?

4)

(a)Rava asked what the Din will be if the Kohen squeezes the oil out of the Kometz on to the Ma'arachah, before placing the Kometz on top of it, which might not be a case of Chaser Komtzo - because of the possibility that Chiburei Olin ke'Olin, meaning that when the Kohen subsequently places the Kometz on the Ma'arachah, it is as if the oil that is already burning on the Ma'arachah, now becomes absorbed inside it.

(b)In a case where someone sacrifices ba'Chutz a limb which only comprises a k'Zayis together with the bone, Rebbi Yochanan rules Chayav, Resh Lakish - says Patur ...

(c)... because whereas the former holds Chiburei Olin ke'Olin Damu, the latter holds 'La'av ke'Ochlin Damu'.

(d)Ravina now suggests to Rav Ashi that - Rava's She'eilah is subject to the Machlokes between Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish.

(e)Rav Ashi replied that the She'eilah is applicable both according to Rebbi Yochanan and according to Resh Lakish. Even ...

1. ... Rebbi Yochanan might concede that in our case (of the Kometz and the oil), Chiburei Olin La'av ke'Olin Dami - since, unlike the flesh and the bone, they are two different entities.

2. ... Resh Lakish might concede that, in our case, Chiburei Olin ke'Olin Dami - because, as opposed to the bone (which is not an intrinsic part of the flesh, because, should it fall off the Mizbe'ach, there is no Mitzvah to return it), the oil is an intrinsic part of the Kometz).

5)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about two Menachos that became mixed-up? At which point do they become Pasul'?

(b)How do we learn this from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Kemitzah) "mi'Soltah"?

(c)Why can the Kohen not ...

1. ... burn the entire mixture?

2. ... simply take two Kemitzos from the mixture and burn them?

5)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that if two Menachos became mixed-up - as long as enough of each one remains recognizable (if they fell on two different sides of the K'li, and are only mixed in the middle), enough for the Kohen to take a Kemitzah from each one, then he should. If not, they are both Pasul.

(b)We learn this from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Kemitzah) "mi'Soltah" - 've'Lo mi'So'les Chavertah' (that the Kometz may not contain any flour from another Minchah).

(c)The Kohen may not ...

1. ... burn the entire mixture - because the Kemitzah is crucial to the Mitzvah.

2. ... simply take two Kemitzos from the mixture and burn them - in case he includes some flour from the second Minchah in either Kemitzah (as we just explained).

6)

(a)The Tana also forbids burning a Kometz that becomes mixed up with a Minchah from which the Kemitzah has not been taken. Why is that?

(b)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Lo Saktiru mimenu Isheh la'Hashem"?

(c)What does the Tana rule in a case where the Kohen burns the Kometz of a Minchah that becomes mixed-up with its own Shirayim or with somebody else's?

6)

(a)The Tana also forbids burning a Kometz that becomes mixed up with a Minchah from which the Kemitzah hass not been taken - because it is forbidden to burn a Minchah from which the Kemitzah has not been taken.

(b)We learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Lo Saktiru mimenu Isheh la'Hashem" - the prohibition of burning the Shirayim of a Minchah (Kol she'Mimenu la'Ishim, harei Hu be'Bal Taktiru').

(c)In a case where the Kohen burns the Kometz of a Minchah that becomes mixed-up with its own Shirayim or with somebody else's, the Tana rules that - the owner of the Kometz has fulfilled his duty.

7)

(a)What distinction does Rav Chisda draw between a piece of Neveilah that becomes mixed-up with two pieces of Shechutah, and a piece of Shechutah that becomes mixed-up with two pieces of Neveilah?

(b)What are the ramifications of the distinction?

(c)What is the reason for the difference?

(d)How is it posible for Neveilah to become permitted like the Shechutah?

(e)Does Rav Chisda go after the Mevatel or after the Bateil?

7)

(a)Rav Chisda rules that - a piece of Neveilah that becomes mixed-up with two pieces of Shechutah is Bateil, whereas a piece of Shechutah that becomes mixed-up with two pieces of Neveilah does not.

(b)The ramifications of the distinction are - whether, if Terumah touches one of the pieces, it becomes Vadai Tamei (and needs to be burned) or Safek Tamei (and has the Din of Tolin [it hangs in abeyance]).

(c)The reason for the difference is - because, on the one hand, the Shechutah can never become intrinsically Tamei like the Neveilah (making it a case of Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno (see Rashi in Beitzah 38b), which is Bateil be'Rov, whilst on the other, the Neveilah can become intrinsically Tahor like the Shechutah (in which case it is Miyn be'Miyno, which is not Bateil) ...

(d)... once it becomes unfit for a Ger to eat (as we learned in Bechoros).

(e)Rav Chisda goes after - the Mevateil. If the Mevateil can become like the Bateil, it is considered Miyn be'Miyno; if not, it is considered Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno.

8)

(a)In which basic point does Rebbi Chanina disagree with Rav Chisda? What does he say?

(b)What will he therefore hold by ...

1. ... Neveilah that became mixed-up with Shechutah?

2. ... Shechutah that became mixed-up with Neveilah?

(c)What problem do we have with both rulings, according to the opinion of ...

1. ... the Rabbanan?

2. ... Rebbi Yehudah?

(d)How do we know that Rebbi Yehudah does not consider Efshar Lih'yos Kamohu a criterion to determine Miyn be'Miyno?

8)

(a)Rebbi Chanina disagrees with Rav Chisda in that - he goes after the Bateil. Consequently, he holds that if the Bateil can become like the Mevateil, it is considered Miyn be'Miyno and is not Bateil; whereas if it cannot, it is Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno , and is Bateil.

(b)He will therefore hold that ...

1. ... Neveilah that became mixed-up with Shechutah - is not Bateil.

2. ... Shechutah that became mixed-up with Neveilah - is Bateil.

(c)The problem with both rulings is that - according to the opinion of ...

1. ... the Rabbanan - Miyn be'Miyno is no less Bateil than Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno.

2. ... Rebbi Yehudah - the criterion for Miyn be'Miyno is Chazuta (its appearance, irrespective of Halachic similarities or differences). Consequently, in this case - seeing as Neveilah and Basar are both Basar, neither ought to be Bateil.

(d)We know that Rebbi Yehudah does not consider Efshar Lih'yos Kamohu a criterion to determine Miyn be'Miyno - because in the case of Dam ha'Par and Dam ha'Sa'ir too, the latter can never resemble the former, yet he considers it Miyn be'Miyno.

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9)

(a)So we establish the current Sugya like Rebbi Chiya. What did Rebbi Chiya quote a Beraisa as saying about Neveilah and Shechutah?

(b)How do Rebbi Chanina and Rav Chisda now argue over what the Beraisa means?

(c)What problem do we have with this? Why do we initially think that Rebbi Chiya cannot hold like ...

1. ... the Rabbanan?

2. ... Rebbi Yehudah?

(d)How do we then establish Rebbi Chiya like Rebbi Yehudah?

9)

(a)So we establish the current Sugya like Rebbi Chiya, who quoted a Beraisa - Neveilah u'Shechutah Beteilos Zu be'Zu.

(b)Rebbi Chanina and Rav Chisda now argue over - whether the Tana means Neveilah in Shechutah (Rav Chisda) or Shechutah in Neveilah (Rebbi Chanina).

(c)The problem with this is that - Rebbi Chiya cannot hold like ...

1. ... the Rabbanan - because they hold Miyn be'Miyno Bateil.

2. ... Rebbi Yehudah - because, according o what we initially think, he holds Miyn be'Miyno, Eino Bateil (under any circumstances).

(d)We establish Rebbi Chiya like Rebbi Yehudah however - by conceding that, if either the Bateil cannot become like the Mevatel or vice-versa, it is considered Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno, and is therefore Bateil.

10)

(a)This goes well with Rebbi Chanina, since (in the Mishnah in Zevachim [the source of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yehudah and the Rabbanan]) Kodshim can become like Chulin. How is that possible?

(b)What is the problem, according to Rav Chisda?

(c)To answer this Kashya, how will Rav Chisda explain the Mishnah in Zevachim Nis'arev be Dam Beheimah ... ?

10)

(a)This goes well with Rebbi Chanina, since (in the Mishnah in Zevachim [the source of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yehudah and the Rabbanan]) Kodshim can become like Chulin - if they are left overnight, to become Pasul be'Linah.

(b)The problem according to Rav Chisda, who goes after the Mevateil is - how can Dam Chulin ever become like Dam Kodshim?

(c)To answer this Kashya, Rav Chisda will explain Nis'arev be Dam Beheimah ... - where it is the Dam Kodshim which is the majority, and it is a question of the Dam Chulin becoming Bateil in it).

11)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if two Menachos became mixed-up, if one cannot take a Kemitzah from each one, they are Pasul (even if it is possible to take from one of them). Why is that?

(b)Why can the author not be the Rabbanan?

(c)Assuming that one did take a Kemitzah from one of them, what would now constitute the Bateil, and what the Mevatel?

11)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if two Menachos became mixed-up, if one cannot take a Kemitzah from each one, they are Pasul (even if it is possible to take from one of them) - since the Shirayim of the one from which the Kometz was takem cannot be Mevatel the mixture (See Shitah Mekubetzes).

(b)The author cannot be the Rabbanan - because, seeing as they hold Miyn be'Miyno Bateil, there is no reason for the Shirayim (which are not considered Olin) not to be Mevatel the part of the other Minchah that is mixed with it.

(c)Assuming that one did take a Kemitzah from one of them - the other Minchah would now constitute the Bateil and the Shirayim, the Mevatel.

12)

(a)Why, in the current case, is there no problem according to Rebbi Chanina?

(b)What is the problem, according to Rav Chisda? What prompts us to propose that the author of our Mishnah cannot be (the Tana of) Rebbi Chiya?

(c)We reject this proposition however, based on a statement of Rebbi Zeira. What was Rebbi Zeira referring to when he learned a Gezeirah-Shavah 'Haktarah' (by the Shirayim) from 'Haktarah' (by the Kometz)?

(d)How does that reinstate the possibility of our Mishnah going like (the Tana of) Rebbi Chiya?

12)

(a)In the current case, there is no problem according to Rebbi Chanina - because the Minchah can become like the Shirayim (by taking a Kemitzah from it), in which case it is Miyn be'Miyno.

(b)The problem according to Rav Chisda is that - since the Shirayim cannot become like the Minchah, it ought to be considered Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno, in which case we ought to suggest that the author of our Mishnah cannot be (the Tana of) Rebbi Chiya.

(c)We reject this proposition however, based on a statement of Rebbi Zeira, who learned from a Gezeirah-Shavah 'Haktarah' (by the Shirayim) from 'Haktarah' (by the Kometz) - that just as one Kometz cannot be Mevatel another Kometz, so too, can the Shirayim not be Mevatel a Kometz.

(d)The fact that the Shirayim is not Mevatel the Minchah, stems from a Gezeirah-Shavah, and not from the Din of Miyn be'Miyno Eino Bateil, reinstates the possibility of our Mishnah going like Rebbi Chiya.

13)

(a)We also learned in our Mishnah that, in a case where a Kometz becomes mixed-up with a Minchah from which the Kometz has not been taken, and which one subsequently burns on the Mizbe'ach, the owner has fulfilled his duty. Why can the Mishnah then not go like the Rabbanan?

(b)What problem do we have with trying to establish the author as Rebbi Yehudah?

(c)How do we answer ...

1. ... this Kashya?

2. ... the equivalent Kashya from the Seifa Nis'arev Komtzah be'Shirehah ... , ve'Im Hiktir, Alsah le'Ba'alim?

13)

(a)We also learned in our Mishnah that in a case where a Kometz becomes mixed-up with a Minchah from which the Kometz has not been taken, and which one subsequently burns on the Mizbe'ach, the owner is Yotzei. This cannot go like the Rabbanan - because according to them, there is no reason for the Kometz not to become Bateil in the Minchah, in which case, the owner would not be Yotzei.

(b)The problem with trying to establish the author as Rebbi Yehudah is that - according to Rebbi Chanina, who goes after the Bateil, why is the Kometz, which cannot become like the Minchah, not Bateil (even according to Rebbi Yehudah).

(c)We answer ...

1. ... this Kashya - by again citing Rebbi Zeira (who learned that the Shirayim cannot be Mevatel the Kometz from a Gezeirah-Shavah), and that is how we answer ...

2. ... the equivalent Kashya from the Seifa Nis'arev Komtzah be'Shirehah ... , ve'Im Hiktir, Alsah le'Ba'alim' (in fact, it is on this case that Rebbi Zeira actually presented the Gezeirah-Shavah).

14)

(a)Finally, we ask from the Beraisa, which permits a Matzah dough that contains Katzach. What is Katzach.

(b)Assuming that the Katzach is in the majority, what Kashya can we ask from this Beraisa on Rav Chisda (who goes after the Mevatel)?

(c)Why is this not a problem according to Rebbi Chanina?

(d)How do we refute the Kashya on Rav Chisda?

(e)How do we extrapolate this from the Lashon of the Beraisa?

14)

(a)Finally, we ask from the Beraisa, which permits a Matzah dough that contains Katzach - poppy-seeds).

(b)Assuming that the Katzach is in the majority - we can ask from this Beraisa on Rav Chisda (who goes after the Mevatel) that - seeing as here, the Katzach cannot become Matzah, why is it not Mevatel the Matzah?

(c)This is not a problem according to Rebbi Chanina - because the Matzah can indeed become like the Katzach, in the event that it becomes moldy.

(d)We refute the Kashya on Rav Chisda however - by establishing the Beraisa when the Katzach is in the minority.

(e)And we extrapolate this from the Lashon of the Beraisa - Matzah hi, Ela she'Nikra'as Matzah Metuveles, implying that the Matzah is in the majority.

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