ME'ILAH 10 - Dedicated l'Zechut Refu'ah Shleimah for Elisheva Chaya bat Leah. Dedicated by Michael Steinberg, David Steinberg, and Ethan Steinberg.

1)

(a)What does Ula say about someone who derives benefit from Basar Kodshei Kodshim that became Tamei and Emurei Kodshim Kalim that have already been brought on the Mizbe'ach?

(b)We query Ula in that this is obvious. Why is that?

(c)How do we reconcile the Kashya with the ruling in the first Perek 'ha'Pigul Le'olam Mo'alin bo', even though it does not cause any loss?

(d)How do we answer the initial Kashya? Why would we have thought that some Kedushah still remains vis-a-vis ...

1. ... Kodshei Kodshim that became Tamei?

2. ... Emurei Kodshim Kalim that have already been brought on the Mizbe'ach?

(e)How do we reconcile the latter ruling with what we learned in our Mishnah, that Me'ilah applies up to the time that the T'rumas ha'Deshen has been performed?

1)

(a)Ula rules that someone who derives benefit from Basar Kodshei Kodshim that became Tamei and Emurei Kodshim Kalim that have already been brought on to the Mizbe'ach - is Patur from Me'ilah.

(b)We query Ula in that this is obvious - since the transgressor does not cause a loss either to the Mizbe'ach or to the Kohanim.

(c)To reconcile the Kashya with the ruling in the first Perek 'ha'Pigul Le'olam Mo'alin bo', even though it does not cause anybody a loss - inasmuch as (as we explained there) the Zerikah is still needed for the Pigul to take effect (as we explained there).

(d)We answer the initial Kashya that - we would have thought that some Kedushah still remains vis-a-vis ...

1. ... Kodshei Kodshim that became Tamei - seeing as they still require burning in the Kodesh, and similarly ...

2. ... Emurei Kodshim Kalim that have already been brought on to the Mizbe'ach - since they still require the Kohanim to stoke them.

(e)We reconcile the latter ruling with what we learned in our Mishnah, that Me'ilah applies up to the time that the T'rumas ha'Deshen has been performed - by restricting the latter ruling to Kodshei Kodshim, which are on a higher degree of Kedushah than Kodshim Kalim.

2)

(a)How does Rava qualify the ruling in the latter Beraisa (in connection with 'ha'Neheneh mi'Demei Chatas', that we brought in support of Rav) 'Kareiv Chataso, Yeilchu le'Yam-ha'Melach'? In which case will this ruling apply?

(b)And in which case will the Tana agree that Yiplu li'Nedavah?

(c)What is the reason for this distinction?

2)

(a)Rava qualifies the ruling in the latter Beraisa (in connection with 'ha'Neheneh mi'Demei Chatas', that we brought in support of Rav) 'Kareiv Chataso, Yeilchu le'Yam-ha'Melach' - by restricting it to where he knew about the Me'ilah (and set aside fresh money) before bringing his Chatas.

(b)But where he only discovers that he was Mo'el after the Chatas has already been brought, the Tana will agree that - Yiplu li'Nedavah.

(c)The reason for this distinction is - because whereas in the former case, when he designates the money, he still has the option of using it to purchase his Chatas with it, and if he does not, it has the Din of a Mosar Chatas, which must be burned, in the latter case, where he has no option of using the fresh money for his Chatas, it constitutes designating money to be destroyed, and that we do not say.

3)

(a)Our Mishnah now discusses the stages of the Kometz, the Levonah, the Ketores, the Minchas Kohanim, the Minchs Kohen ha'Mashi'ach and the Minchas Nesachim. What is the Minchas ...

1. ... Kohen Mashi'ach?

2. ... Nesachim?

(b)What do all the above have in common?

(c)At which stage does ...

1. ... Me'ilah take effect?

2. ... the eligibility to become Pasul both through a T'vul-Yom and a Mechusar Kipurim, and through Linah take effect?

3. ... Nosar and Tum'ah take effect?

3)

(a)Our Mishnah now discusses the stages of the Kometz, the Levonah, the Ketores, the Minchas Kohanim, the Minchas Kohen ha'Mashi'ach and the Minchas Nesachim. The Minchas ...

1. ... Kohen Mashi'ach is - the Minchas Chavitin (brought by the Kohen Gadol each day).

2. ... Nesachim is - the Minchas Nesachim that accompanies most Korbanos.

(b)All the above have in common - that they are completely burned and have no Shirayim.

(c)The stage at which ...

1. ... Me'ilah takes effect is - as soon as the Korban has been declared Hekdesh.

2. ... the eligibility to become Pasul both through a T'vul-Yom and a Mechusar Kipurim, and through Linah takes effect is - as soon as they are sanctified in a K'li Shareis, and that is also when ...

3. ... Nosar and Tum'ah take effect.

4)

(a)Why does Pigul not apply to the items in the current list?

(b)What is the underlying principle behind this ruling? What do we mean by 'Kol she'Yesh lo Matirin'?

(c)What is the significance of 'Kol she'Yesh lo Matirin' as regards Nosar and Tamei? What is the difference between something that has a Matir, and something that does not, in this regard?

4)

(a)Pigul does not apply to the items of the current list - because they have no Matir ...

(b)... either to the Kohanim or to the Mizbe'ach, and (as the Tana specifically states) the underlying principle is that - the Matir is the catalyst that brings Kodshim into the realm of Pigul [as we saw in the previous Mishnah]) ...

(c)... because if something has a Matir, then it is the Matir that serves as the catalyst to bring it into the realm of Nosar and Tum'ah; otherwise, Kidush K'li does (as we explained).

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5)

(a)The Beraisa cites three Chumros of Pigul over Tum'ah. What does the Tana mean when he says that Tum'ah requires two Yedi'os (against the one of Pigul)?

(b)In which way is the Korban for Pigul more stringent than that of Tum'ah?

(c)What is Pigul's third Chumra?

(d)What is the Beraisa trying to learn from here?

5)

(a)The Beraisa cites three Chumros of Pigul over Tumah. When the Tana says that Tum'ah requires two Yedi'os (against the one of Pigul), he means that - one is only Chayav a Korban if the sinner had a Yedi'ah that he sinned, and a Yedi'ah when he brings his Korban (whereas Pigul requires only a Yedi'ah at the end).

(b)The Korban for Pigul is more stringent than that of Tum'ah in that - it is a Korban Chatas Kavu'a, whereas the Korban for Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav is only a Korban Oleh ve'Yored.

(c)Pigul's third Chumra is that - it does not have a Heter be'Tzibur, like Tum'ah, which is permitted when the Tzibur are Tamei (like a Pesach ha'Ba be'Tum'ah).

(d)The Beraisa is trying to learn via a Kal-va'Chomer from Pigul - that Tum'ah (like Pigul), should be confined to Kodshim that have a Matir.

6)

(a)What does the Tana therefore learn from the Pasuk in Emor (in connection with Tum'as Kodshim) "Emor aleihem le'Doroseichem, Kol Ish asher Yikrav mi'Kol Zar'achem ... "?

(b)And what does Rebbi Eliezer learn from "asher Yikrav"?

(c)Why can it not be understood literally?

(d)We now know the Halachah with regard to Tum'ah. What do we then learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah "Chilul" (by Nosar) "Chilul" (by Tamei)?

6)

(a)The Tana therefore learns from the Pasuk in Emor "Emor aleihem le'Doroseichem, Kol Ish asher Yikrav mi'Kol Zar'achem ... " that - one is always Chayav for Tum'ah by Kodshim, whether the latter has a Matir or not.

(b)And Rebbi Eliezer learns from "asher Yikrav" - that one is not Chayav for Tum'ah until the Korban becomes fit to be brought, either via its Matir having been brought, or (where there is no Matir) via Kidush K'li.

(c)The Pasuk cannot be understood literally - since one is not Chayav Kareis for touching Kodshim be'Tum'ah, as the Pasuk implies.

(d)We now know the Halachah with regard to Tum'ah. And we then learn from the Gezeirah-Shavah "Chilul" (by Nosar) "Chilul" (by Tum'ah) that - the same applies to Nosar.

Hadran alach 'Chatas ha'Of'

Perek V'lad Chatas

7)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about V'lad Chatas, T'muras Chatas and Chatas she'Meisu Ba'alehah? What do they all have in common?

(b)Why must they die?

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(a)Our Mishnah rules that V'lad Chatas, T'muras Chatas and Chatas she'Meisu Ba'alehah (irrespective of whether it is before or after) - must die ...

(b)... because, for different reasons, they are all not fit to atone.

8)

(a)What happens to a Chatas she'Ibrah Shenasah (that entered its second year) or a Tam that was lost before the owner brought a replacement and found with a blemish, assuming that the owner then brings a replacement?

(b)What will be the Din in the latter case, if the animal is still a Tam when it is found?

(c)What does the Tana say about ...

1. ... the Chatas under discussion making a Temurah?

2. ... it being subject to Me'ilah?

(d)What is the Din regarding a regular Chatas Ba'al-Mum making a Temurah?

8)

(a)A Chatas she'Ibrah Shenasah (that entered its second year) or a Tam that was lost before the owner brought a replacement, and found with a blemish, assuming that the owner then brings a replacement - the Chatas must die.

(b)In the latter case, if the animal is still a Tam when it is found - then the Din will be Tir'eh, even after the owner subsequently brought a replacement.

(c)The Tana rules ...

1. ... that the Chatas under discussion cannot make a Temurah (since the owner did nothing to preserve its Kedushah, either as Kodshei Mizbe'ach or as Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis).

2. ... 'Lo Nehenin (mi'de'Rabbanan), ve'Lo Mo'alin (mi'd'Oraysa)'.

(d)Any regular Kodshim that is a Ba'al-Mum can make a Temurah (as we learned in Temurah from "O Ra be'Tov").

9)

(a)Assuming that the owner has not yet brought a replacement, what is he able to do with the Chatas that was lost as a Tam but found as a Ba'al-Mum?

(b)And what does the Mishnah now rule with regard to ...

1. ... making a Temurah?

2. ... the Din Me'ilah?

9)

(a)Assuming that the owner has not yet brought a replacement - he is permitted to sell the Chatas that was lost as a Tam but found as a Ba'al-Mum.

(b)And the Mishnah rules that it ...

1. ... can also make a Temurah ...

2. ... and that it is subject to Me'ilah.

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