More Discussions for this daf
1. HEIGHT OF SUKAH 2. Dofen Akumah on an Itzteva 3. Rav Huna - Kundisin
4. "Itztava" 5. Itztava 6. Ma'aKeh
7. Itzteva 8. Rambam's Shitah of Amud 9. Dofen Akumah
10. Seven by Seven, or a bit More? 11. Too Many Walls?
DAF DISCUSSIONS - SUKAH 4

David Cohen asked:

WE SAW THE GEMARA ON DAF DALED WHERE THERE IS AN ITZTAVA AND RASHI QUOTES THE REMAINING AREA BEING PERMITTED AS A SUKKA AS IT IS A PESEL TO THE SUKKA.

(a) WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

(b) AND WHY IS IT NOT CONSIDERED AS IF YOU ARE SITTING UNDER A DOIFEN AKUMA?

(c) I DID SEE MOADIM UZMANIM CHALEK ALEPH (S 94??) WHO DISCUSSES THE ISSUE - I THINK HE IS SUGGESTING THE WALL WAS MADE OUT OF KOSHER SECHACH - CAN YOU CLARIFY ?

THANKS

YCD COHEN PRESTWICH DAF YOMI

The Kollel replies:

(a) The Gemara later (19a) brings a Beraisa that P'sal ha'Yotzeh Min ha'Sukah Nidon k'Sukah. This means that Sechach (referred to here as P'sal since it generally is made from P'soles Goren v'Yekev) which does not have Hechsher Sukah, can still be Kosher for a Sukah if it is attached to a Kosher Sukah. This is because it can be considered as an extension of the existing Sukah and so does not need to have all the requirements of a Sukah in it's own right. The Gemara and Rishonim clarify the necessary conditions for applying this Din later (19a).

(b) We do not need to consider the Sechach that is not over the Itztavah as a Dofen Akumah, since the Sechach over the Itztavah has three walls without saying Dofen Akumah. The Sechach over the Itztavah is Kosher using the principle of P'sal.

(c) It is certainly true that we can only use the Din of P'sal if the Sechach was made from Kosher Sechach (see Rashi DH Kesheirah).

Dov Freedman