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DAF DISCUSSIONS - PESACHIM 112

Meir Eliezer Bergman asked:

> In the Point by Point Outlines to Pesachim 112 b - (s) 1, you have: >This is a problem only if the child is above one year old

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>Shouldn't this be: >This is a problem only if the child is "under" one year old

Pesach Feldman replied: >I believe that what I wrote is correct. Bar Shasa, i.e. within the first year.

Meir Eliezer Bergman writes back:

In many places, the phrase "bar ..." indicates reaching a stage or age. "Bar mitzvah", "bar meitzar", "bar bey rav". In hebrew also, we have the mishna in Avos - Ben chamesh lemikroh .... All refering to "having reached that age or that stage already". Bar shasa would also mean - having reached one year old already, not "in the first year".

Also, if you look at the Rach in Pesachim, he says that the problem is only with a tinok katan, which seems to mean that when the child is older, he is safer.

Thank you,

Meir Eliezer Bergman

The Kollel replies:

I believe you are correct, Reb Meir Eliezer. The word "Iy Havi Bar Shas" implies to me that he has reached Bar Shasa, and that since he has reached that age there is no longer a problem. (Only with a younger child will there be a problem.)

After looking around, I found that Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Shoneh Halachos, OC 240:28) clearly writes the Halachah the way you would have it.

We will make the change in the Outlines, thank you!

Mordecai Kornfeld

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