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1. To'eh b'Devar Mitzvah 2. Second Tosefos on 71b 3. Chagigah from Tzon

Shmarya Richler asked:

Tosefos asks: How is it that we say that the Chagiga can be only eaten for 2 days and "one" night? We should be allowed to eat it for 2 nights given that we derive from the posuk that we are allowed to eat the korban until the second morning. This implies 2 nights, not one. Tosefos doesn't answer the question. Does anyone address this?

Thank you

Shmarya Richler, Montreal, Canada

The Kollel replies:

Dear Shmarya,

The Hebrew Schottenstein edition brings two sources.

The Rivan explains that the second morning is only the time of the burning, but it is forbidden to eat after the previous sunset.

Rav Yaakov Kaminetsky in his Emes l'Yakov (p53 ft.3) explains further:

The Chagigah is not a new Korban. It is either a regular Shelamim which is eaten two days and one night or like the Todah which is one day and one night.

Boker in the Pasuk must mean the time of burning since there is no option of two nights of eating. See there for more elaboration.

All the best,

Reuven Weiner

Shmarya Richler responds:

Dear Reuven,

Interestingly enough as I was learning the Chumash yesterday (before I saw your e-mail) I saw a Ramban (7:17) that says the same thing. Now the question is: Isn't that obvious? Why would Tosefos ask the question in the first place? Perhaps Tosefos holds that you are allowed to eat the Korban during the second night?


Shmarya Richler

The Kollel replies:

Dear Shmarya,

Rav Kamenetzki in his Sefer Emes l'Yakov gives the following possible explanation.

The Rosh in Arvei Pesachim Siman 25 brings the Ri who holds that when Erev Pesach falls on Shabbos, the Chagigah is brought on Friday and is permitted to be eaten even Motza'ei Shabbos. Since there is a Hava Amina in Pesachim 120b that the Korban Pesach can be eaten night and day in place of the regular day and night and only a new Pasuk stops us, then Chagigah can be two nights and one day in place of the regular two days and one night. Even though the Shechitah was on Friday the eating is permissible starting Lel Shabbos, (The Rosh argues on the Ri).

Therefore, perhaps our Tosfos is like the Ri's opinion and permits the second night. Even though Tosfos says two days, perhaps he means that the eating starts at night like the Korban Pesach itself.

Chag Shameach'

Reuven Weiner.