More Discussions for this daf
1. Why Basar BeChalav is a Chiddush 2. Basar v'Chalav questions 3. Efshar Lesochato Asur
4. Tosfos DH she'Nafal l'Soch 5. Tipas Chalav 6. Rashi DH I Chiddush Hu
7. תוספות ד״ה גדי אסרה תורה ולא חלב

Shimon Cobersy asked:

My question is,

It comes out that according to Tosafos, the Chiddush is that Basar which was soaked with Cholov for 24 hours is muttar to eat. This Chiddush is in fact a leniency that does not appear in other forbidden foods (Tosafos HaRosh). If this is the case, what is the p'shat: MiBasar beCholov mai taima delo gamrinan, deChidush hu! Since the Chiddush is a leniency in Basar beCholov, (whereta-am ke-ikar is de-oraisa) then by shaar issurim (where there is no such leniency of soaking hetter with issur for 24 hours) kal vechomer ta-am ke-ikar will be de-oraisa, i.e. you can surely learn sha-ar issurim from Basar beCholov.

Shimon Cobersy, London, England

The Kollel replies:

We see from the fact that soaking -- which definitely gives Ta'am -- is still Mutar, that the underlying reasoning behind Basar b'Chalav is not Ta'am k'Ikar in it's classic sense, but rather it is a Chidush of the Torah from which we cannot learn to any other categories of Halachah.

D. Zupnik

Shimon asked:

Does this mean that by shaar issurim we say ta'am ke-ikar is de-oraisa but that

it is not learned from basar be-chalav, rather from somewhere else (as he indicates

in "Amar Rava - that Rava is a dichui be-alma)?

The Kollel replies:

Yes, that is correct.

D. Z.