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DAF DISCUSSIONS - MAKOS 2

feivel rosen asks:

the author of your insights section writes:

"Rebbi Yochanan makes a similar Kal va'Chomer with regard to Galus. If someone who actually kills b'Mezid (intentionally) is not sent to Galus, then one who only attempts to kill b'Mezid certainly is not sent to Galus. The Gemara refutes this Kal va'Chomer, saying that perhaps there is more reason to send Edim Zomemim to Galus for attempting to kill someone, because Galus is a Kaparah (atonement), and since they did not actually kill they are entitled to a Kaparah."

i dont have a Yeshivish background, but i dont see where the kal v chomer of R Yochanon has anything to do do with someone who attempted to kill but wasn't successful.

isnt it directed to those who attempted to send someone to galus but werent successful?

thank you

feivel rosen, chicago. usa

The Kollel replies:

Thank you, Feivel! Yes, you are correct. We will correct the slip now. Yasher Koach, Mordecai Kornfeld