More Discussions for this daf
1. Zeh Neheneh 2. From Street to Field to Field 3. BUILDING A FENCE AROUND A NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY
4. Zeh Neheneh v'Zeh Lo Chaser 5. Tosfos DH Zeh Ein 6. If not Me'ilah, what?
7. ha'Makif Sadeh Chaveiro 8. ha'Boneh Bayit v'Aliya me'Chadash 9. Three & four surrounding fences
10. Tosfos DH Zeh Ein 11. Zeh Neheneh v'Zeh Lo Chaser 12. Tosfos DH Zeh Ein
13. משלמת מה שנהנית 14. מקיף מד' רוחותיו 15. חצר שלא קיימא לאגרא וגברא דלא עביד למיגר

R Karaguilla asks:

Shalom Alechem

Bab? kama daf 20a

One tossfot before the last one says that living in someone's home is Grama.

So comes out that if if a person has nowhere to live (Ze Nehene) he should be Patur, because even if he is having Hanaa still it is Grama.

Why If so (all Lefi Tossafot)

1) Ze Nehene ve ze Haser why is Chayav, is only grama?

2) What is the Gmaras question, -Ze Nehene ze ze Lo Haser. Pashut he should be Patur, also.


The Kollel replies:

The Rosh here (Siman 6) explains that by Zeh Neheneh, you are Chayav since you are "eating" (gaining) from your friend's lacking (but regular Grama is hurting him without your gain).

All the best,

Reuven Weiner