More Discussions for this daf
1. Natrikon 2. Hebrew vowels 3. The Days of Yehoshua ben Nun
4. Ma'aseh Merkavah 5. The Letters MaNTzPa"Ch 6. Double Kaf
7. Nevuv and Buvan; Both Sides of the Luchos
DAF DISCUSSIONS - SHABBOS 104

duvid asked:

on amod 1 rash title "mamer pesiach mamer susoim" rashi says "kgon Mashei Markovah" now i'm not familiar what masah markovah is.

please expalin it to me.

thanks much

duvid, brooklyn usa

The Kollel replies:

'Ma'aseh Merkavah' refers to the chapters in Yeshayah and Yechezkel which describe G-d's Holy Throne and the groups of angels that surround it. 'Ma'amar Sasum' is the oral explanation of those chapters (see Bartenura Chagigah 2:1).

May you and yours be inscribed in the Book of Good Life.

Kol Tuv

Eliezer Chrysler.

judy meibach asks:

B"H

When I learned Chagiga - I was confused - firstly, I was told that at the time of the Rabeyim there was a chashash whether they should be learning it at all - but secondly once they learned it - there was a question - how can you question what was before Maaseh Breshit

Have I got this confused?

From what I understood - it says in the Torah - Breyshit Barah Elokeem et hashamayim veet haraetz....'

so what was before the breyshit - we are not supposed to ask - I assumed that that was the Ma'aseh Breishit

I was also told that there was a chashash if this should be learned bichlal

B'chavod

Judy Meibach

The Kollel replies:

Ma'aseh Bereishis, according to most Rishonim, refers to understanding how Hashem created the world and which Midos He used to do so. This does not relate to what was around before Creation began.

According to the Rambam, it seems that it refers to natural physics and biology, i.e. the intense study of nature (see Perush ha'Mishnah in the beginning of the second chapter of Chagigah, Yesodei ha'Torah chapter 4). Once again, it does not involve what was before the world.

Be well,

M. Kornfeld