More Discussions for this daf
1. Tosfos, pushing bundles of reeds into another Reshus 2. Transferring an Item 4 Amos in Reshus ha'Rabim above 10 Tefachim 3. Carrying a Kevares
4. Pillar of 9 Tefachim 5. Techum Shabbos 6. Shvus During Bein ha'Shemashos
7. Seven and a bit 8. Kaveres 9. Help!
10. Bottom Tosfos on 8b 11. A wheelbarrow on Shabbat 12. THROWING A BASKET INTO RESHUS HA'RABIM
13. Wording of the Gemara "Kol Davar..." 14. "l'Ma'alah"
DAF DISCUSSIONS - SHABBOS 8

Salvador Litvak asked:

This is my first cycle of daf. I was fascinated throughout berachos. Nine pages into Shabbos, however, I'm having trouble connecting with the material, which seems so far removed, at least on the surface, from seeking a wise heart.

I love the sages for chasing down every possible permutation of carrying and transferring, but how do I connect emotionally with this stuff? Even in the most technical parts of Guide To The Perplexed, for example, my mind and heart were both more engaged than here in the Gemara.

Salvador Litvak, Los Angeles, USA

The Kollel replies:

Learning Torah can be compared to a jig-saw puzzle, where some parts of the puzzle are more exciting than others (the sky is boring, right?). And so it is with Torah (at least as regards the beginner - to a true Talmid-Chacham, every piece is as exciting as the next).

But how do you feel when you have finished the puzzle and there is one piece of sky missing?

So every piece of the Torah puzzle is vital to understand the whole picture. It goes without saying that the pieces of Torah play a far more important role than the sky in the jig-saw puzzle, since they provide you a deeper understanding.

The Pasuk in Tehilim (19) states "the precepts of Hash-m straight, they make the heart happy. In other words, Torah, in its portrayal of truth, makes the person who studies it happy. Consequently, if he is not, he needs to examine his approach to see what's wrong. It's like someone who is informed that an egg is very tasty and nourishing, and who promptly takes one in his hand and bites into it. Another person might try it boiled ... hard or soft, fried of scrambled, until he finds the way he likes it best. Likewise, Torah, there are many approaches to learning, the most basic distinction being Beck'ius (quantity) and Iyun (quality). Rabbi Kornfeld suggests that you try learning more be'Iyun (perhaps you try using our Insights http://www.dafyomi.co.il/shabbos/insites/insites.htm ). You will probably find that, what you crave is a deeper understand of the material, and that is what will probably give you far more satisfaction. And may I add that a lot of revision will help too.

Incidentally, when you're learning, forget the emotional connections. Concentrate on understanding what you are learning. The joy will come automatically with the satisfaction of having learned a Sugya properly.

Hatzlachah Rabah!