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DAF DISCUSSIONS - SHABBOS 33

Max Munk asked:

#1) The Gemoro states (starts with last four words on 332b) that the women of Mechuza don't work and therefore they steal from their husbands , which implies that their husbands do work Yet earlier on daf 12a the gemorostates that according to Rovo only the people of Mechuza cannot use a lamp on Shabbos to choose between men and women's clothing which are very similar in size because men don't work in Mechuza (Rashi). Why only women are guilty of stealing for not working when men also don't work in Mechuza ?

#2) The gemoro quotes a posuk in Yeshaya 9 to show that Nivul Pei causes terrible punishments. Yet that posuk also lists two more aveiros responsible for the same punishments, mainly ; Chonaf and Mera. Why does the gemora omit them for the cause of these punishments ? The Maharsha does ask the question, but I couldn't understand his answer. Maybe you can explain it, or offer another answer.

The Kollel replies:

1) Excellent question! It seems that the Gemara on 33a means to say that the men of Mechuza were exorbitantly wealthy and they were Mefunakim , in the sense that they were spoiled and not used to working. Neither they nor their wives worked; they consumed their inheritance, as the Gemara says later (109a). Therefore, if their wives spend too much, or eat and party a lot, since the men do not work, they are compelled to steal (see Rashi).

2) We will get back to you soon, b'Ezras Hash-m.