More Discussions for this daf
1. Return from Bavel 2. Mitzvas Yishuv Eretz Yisrael b'Zman ha'Zeh 3. Mitzvas Yishuv Eretz Yisrael b'Zman ha'Zeh
4. Mitzvah to Live in Israel? 5. Walking in Eretz Yisrael 6. Insights - the Rambam and Yishuv Eretz Yisrael
7. Three Oaths 8. Im Te'oreru 9. Rabah and his Brothers
10. Chanukah and the Three/Six Oaths 11. Im Te'oreru
DAF DISCUSSIONS - KESUVOS 111

Ari asks:

I know there is a Rabeinu Chaim brought in Tosfos that there is no mitzvah to live in Eretz Yisrael today because we cant keep the mitzvot haltiliah ba-aretz. Are there any other rishonim who say befarish tht there is no mitzah to live in Israel (I know there is a megilas ester who says that according to the Rambam, but the migilas ester is not a rishon and the Rmbam never sid that befarish, I am wondering if there are other Rishonim who say it befarish).

Ari,

The Kollel replies:

There is nobody who says this as explicitly as Rabbi Chaim. In fact the Shlah (Shaar Haosiyus Os Kuf)says that he is a lone opinion - and disputes his opinion, stating that indeed the mitzvot can be performed satisfactorily in Israel.

Rav Chaim Falaji claims that Behag also holds this opinion since he does not bring the obligation to go to Israel or the possibility of forcing a spouse to go to Israel, but this is not explicit and others explain that Behag was concerned of the dangers on the way to the land of Israel, as are many other Rishonim, including Ritva(Kesuvos ibid), Rav Hai Gaon(Otzar Hageonim Kesuvos),Rabbi Shimshon of Shantz (Maharam Bar Baruch 3:203) Haghos Mordechai, Rashbash(no. 1) and Maharam Mintz(no. 79). The latter quotes Tashbetz (this is the Tashbetz Katan, a pupil of Maharam Rottenburg) who expresses concern that those ascending to Israel will not appreciate the sanctity and will be punished for this, and adds that they might not be able to make a livelihood. This may be a reference to Rav Chaim's view that it is difficult to maintain the sanctity of Eretz Yisrael in our time.

On a personal note, when my father wrote to the Lubavitcher Rebbe telling him we were going on Aliya, the Rebbe said that going to "the king's chamber" is not a simple thing and urged my father to take on extra mitzvos and stringencies.

Yoel Domb