More Discussions for this daf
1. Getting things through prayer 2. Dovid Hamelech and the Harp 3. The speed of the angels
4. Chamor No'er 5. Shema after Tefilla 6. Bedai
7. Moshe and Pharaoh's astrologers 8. Ge'ulah Samuch la'Tefilah 9. Eliyahu in 4 Flights; Rav Elazar bar Avina
10. The Logic of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi 11. Rashi 12. Bushah & Kelimah
13. Verse proving David was not embarrassed 14. Ashrei 15. Rashi
16. Saying Shema before Shemoneh Esreh 17. Lulei 18. "Lulei"
19. Unneccessary repetition 20. Semichat Ge'ulah l'Tefilah 21. Interpretation of "BeShachbecha"
22. בחצות הלילה 23. King David dealing with Halachic issues
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 4

Jeremy asks:

I dont understand how the Svara version of Rav Yehoshua Ben Levi makes sense. According to his Svara, Smichas Geula LeTefillah is only necessary by morning because that is the main Geulah. But still, that does not tell us a reason why he specifically would want Shemoneh Esrei before Shema! It only tells us that the order does not matter

Jeremy, Chicago

The Kollel replies:

Shalom Rav,

Note that the Gemara presents Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi's opinion with the words, "Tefilos b'Emtza Tiknum." This suggests that the Chachamim wanted us to begin the day and to end it with Kabalas Ol Malchus Shamayim, which is possible according to the view of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi but not according to Rebbi Yochanan, as the Gemara explains.

Kol Tuv,

Eliezer Chrysler