More Discussions for this daf
1. Getting things through prayer 2. Dovid Hamelech and the Harp 3. The speed of the angels
4. Chamor No'er 5. Shema after Tefilla 6. Bedai
7. Moshe and Pharaoh's astrologers 8. Ge'ulah Samuch la'Tefilah 9. Eliyahu in 4 Flights; Rav Elazar bar Avina
10. The Logic of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi 11. Rashi 12. Bushah & Kelimah
13. Verse proving David was not embarrassed 14. Ashrei 15. Rashi
16. Saying Shema before Shemoneh Esreh 17. Lulei 18. "Lulei"
19. Unneccessary repetition 20. Semichat Ge'ulah l'Tefilah 21. Interpretation of "BeShachbecha"
22. בחצות הלילה 23. King David dealing with Halachic issues
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 4

Moshe Luchins asked:

On Brochos 4b you wrote

"Whereas, in the opinion of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, the Ge'ulah took place in the day, not at night (since they did not go out yet), so there is no point in putting Ge'ulah next to Tefilah (the only reason, it would seem, for the Shemonah Esrei not to precede the Shema), so the Shema is recited before Tefilah."

Why should Shema then precede shemonah esrei? Is it to make it nikar that the Geula was only at night?

The Kollel replies:

Greetings Reb Moshe,

According to Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, the Shema should not precede the Shemoneh Esreh at night. If I understand your question correctly, you are pointing out a mistake in our Answers to Review Questions of Berachos 4b, section 6-b. You are correct -- the sentence should read, "... so the Shema is recited after Tefilah," instead of " before Tefilah." This is the Shitah of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, who says that the Tefilos are "sandwiched," so to speak, by the morning and evening Shema (as is described in section 6-a there).

Best personal regards to you and your family,

Yisroel Shaw

yshaw@dafyomi.co.il

Kollel Iyun Hadaf

Jerusalem