More Discussions for this daf
1. Getting things through prayer 2. Dovid Hamelech and the Harp 3. The speed of the angels
4. Chamor No'er 5. Shema after Tefilla 6. Bedai
7. Moshe and Pharaoh's astrologers 8. Ge'ulah Samuch la'Tefilah 9. Eliyahu in 4 Flights; Rav Elazar bar Avina
10. The Logic of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi 11. Rashi 12. Bushah & Kelimah
13. Verse proving David was not embarrassed 14. Ashrei 15. Rashi
16. Saying Shema before Shemoneh Esreh 17. Lulei 18. "Lulei"
19. Unneccessary repetition 20. Semichat Ge'ulah l'Tefilah 21. Interpretation of "BeShachbecha"
22. בחצות הלילה 23. King David dealing with Halachic issues
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 4

dov neuhaus asked:

On daf 4a the gemorah says that Dovid Hamelech needed the Harp to wake him up at chatzos. My question is that on the previous Amud the gemorah brings Rav Ashi who says that Dovid Hamelech learnt from evening to chatzos. If Dovid Hamelch learnt till chatzos, then why did he need the harp to wake him up?

dov neuhaus, brooklyn, ny

The Kollel replies:

The Gemara gives two reasons for David Hamelech's harp; 1. to inform him exactly when it was midnight, and 2. to arouse him from his shallow sleep.

You perhaps did not notice that Rebbi Zeira, who adopts the latter view, is the one who learned above that David slept until midnight. Rav Ashi, who takes on that he awoke long before midnight, will no doubt learn like Rav Yitzchak bar Ada, that the purpose of the harp was to ascertain when midnight arrived (and not to wake him up).

Kol Tuv,

Eliezer Chrysler