More Discussions for this daf
1. The Rambam's wonderful point 2. Basar b'Chalav 3. Chalav Zachar
4. The eating of chicken and milk? 5. Lo Sevashel Gedi ba'Chalev Imo 6. Basar b'Chalav
7. Rav Nachman
DAF DISCUSSIONS - CHULIN 113

Nechemyah asked:

B''H

This last Shabbat, me and some friends were eating the Shabbat evening meal, and a friend went to wash is mounth out. And I asked him why he was washing his mouth out. And he told me that it was a rulling in Chulin on fowl and milk. So we talked about it, and he really didn't give me a answer to my questions. So I went home that night to read the Mishnah to the perek in chulin. My friend told me that it was a mid' Rabanan, then he said the the Sages asked the people what they thought of fowl, to see if it was meat. And the people said it was not meat. But the Rabbis made a decree anyway and made fowl meat. But I could not find that story, now I don't have the Gemara on Chulin, only the Mishnah. So if you can please give me the history or backgrownd to this Daf. It would be very helpful. My friends are telling me that it is a custom of the people, and the Rabbis just made it a safegard to a safegard, but when I read the Mishnah to it, that is not what I read. So if you can, t!

hatnk

Nechemyah, Riverside

The Kollel replies:

The Rambam (Hilchos Ma'achalos Asuros, 9:4) rules that eating fowl and milk-based foods together is Rabbinically forbidden. The reason he gives is that if it were permitted to eat chicken and milk together, people would come to eat meat and milk together as well, thinking that the only thing that is forbidden is eating a calf in its mother's milk. The Rambam's ruling follows the opinion of Rebbi Akiva (Mishnah Chulin 113a and Gemara 116a). The Gemara, however, records two other opinions: that it is forbidden by the Torah (see Rashi, Chulin 103b, d.h. Kol ha'Basar) and the opinion of Rebbi Yosi ha'Glili (113a, 116a) that it is permitted altogether (though it seems from the Gemara (116a) that the Rabbis dealt severly with people, living outside of Rebbi Yosi ha'Glili's sphere of influence, who were lenient in this matter).

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the story of the Sages that you mention.

Kol Tuv,

Yonasan Sigler