More Discussions for this daf
1. Ashes Piled Until The Keranos 2. Exaggerations about the ashes on the Mizbe'ach 3. Gid not Nosar
DAF DISCUSSIONS - CHULIN 90

Yosey Kupferstein wrote:

In your dvar torah in regard to the 300 kur of ash on the mizbayach, you quote a gemora in sukka 45a that the ash was as high as the kronois, looking up the gemora it only states that the aruvias reached that height, nothing about korbonus or deshen. The Posik of "ad karnouis hmizbach" is not brought there at all in regard to deshen ? is there a perush that I

missed.

yasher koach

The Kollel replies:

What I wrote in the Insight you referred to was: How high was the accumulation of ash on the top of the altar allowed to reach? In Tehillim 118:27 we read, "Tie up the offerings, up to the Keranos of the altar." The verse seems to imply that the sacrifices burned on the altar were never piled higher than the height of the Keranot -- a hight of one Amah. (See Sukkah 45a)

The proof I brought was from the verse which specifies, "up *until* the Keranot," implying that Korbanot should not reach higher than the Keranos. The same would apply to the ash of the Korbanot. Mr. Slotzkin (from whom I quoted the Dvar Torah) actually proved the 1 Amma limit from the fact that the Aravot of Sukkos were *bent* over the top of the Mizbe'ach, which he said was because it was not proper for them to be higher than the Keranos. He wanted to learn from there that it isn't proper for *anything* to be put on the Mizbe'ach higher than the Keranos. It doesn't say so openly in the Gemara, but the verse can be read to imply that, as I wrote above.

Take care,

-Mordecai