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DAF DISCUSSIONS - SANHEDRIN 72

David Isaac Caplan asked:

Why does the Rambam in Hilchos G'nayvos say that there is a "license" to kill the thief breaking in, but the Gemorah, Sanhedrin 72a, indicates that it is a religious duty to kill -- As it is written in the Gemorah ad loc.: "The Torah declares: 'Im boh l'hargoch, hashkaym l'horgoh.'"

David Isaac Caplan, Delray Beach, FL 33484 USA

The Kollel replies:

Sefer Ner Mitzvah to Sefer ha'Mitzvos of Rambam (Lo Sa'aseh #293) explains that since the thief is not a classic Rodef (because his main intention is to steal money), it is only a Reshus to kill him. (The Gemara's statement of "Hashkem v'Horgo" refers to a person whose main intent is to kill.)

D. Zupnik

Elozer Kanner writes:

See 73A Tos. D"H af rozteach

The Kollel replies:

Tosfos there says that we do not see from the Pasuk about Machteres that it is a *Mitzvah* to kill the thief, just a Reshus, which is indeed the Halachah for which we needed a source.

However, from Tosfos it is not clear that this remains the Halachah even *after* we see from the second verse ("Ka'asher Yakum") that it is a *Mitzvah* to kill a Rotze'ach. Perhaps the second verse applies to both Machteres and a normal Rodef. From the Rambam it is clear that the distinction remains l'Halachah. (See also Margoliyos ha'Yam on that Tosfos, who cites others who discuss the difference between a thief and a normal Rodef.)

M. Kornfeld