1)

(a)According to our Mishnah, a Shomer deducts nine half-Kabin per Kur for wheat and rice. How much does he deduct for ...

1. ... barley and millet?

2. ... spelt and flax seeds?

(b)How many ...

1. ... Kabin are there in a Kur?

2. ... Sa'ah are there in a Kav?

(c)According to the Tana Kama, the above amounts are both per Kur and per annum. What does Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri say?

1)

(a)According to our Mishnah, a Shomer deducts nine half Kabin per Kur for wheat and rice. For ...

1. ... barley and millet he deducts nine Kabin per Kur.

2. ... spelt and flax seeds three Sa'ah per Kur. Note, that each amount is double the one that precedes it.

(b)There are ...

1. ... a hundred and eighty Kabin in a Kur.

2. ... six Sa'ah in a Kav.

(c)According to the Tana Kama, the above amounts are both per Kur and per annum. Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri argues that the mice do not eat more because there are more Kurin. Consequently, one only deducts the given amounts per annum, irrespective of how many Kurin there are (see Tosfos DH 'Ela').

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah, if the Shomer is looking after many Kurin, he does not need to deduct so much. What constitutes 'many Kurin'?

(b)What is Rebbi Yehudah's reason?

(c)What problem do we have with the Tana's Shi'ur for rice (nine half Kabin per Kur)?

2)

(a)According to Rebbi Yehudah, if the Shomer is looking after many Kurin (i.e. ten, as we shall see shortly), he does not need to deduct so much.

(b)Rebbi Yehudah's reason is because one tends to place the crops into the barns in the summer when they are dry. Consequently, when the Shomer returns them in the winter, when they have expanded, he automatically returns more, and the expansion of ten Kurin exceeds what the mice eat from two or three Kurin (see Maharsha).

(c)The problem with the Tana's Shi'ur for rice (nine half Kabin per Kur) is that we know for a fact that the loss of rice is greater than that.

3)

(a)The Beraisa corroborates the statements of Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan and Rebbi Yochanan Amar Rebbi Chiya. What does ...

1. ... Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan say (in answer to the Kashya we just asked) concerning the Shi'ur of rice in our Mishnah?

2. ... Rebbi Yochanan Amar Rebbi Chiya say about the flax-seeds in our Mishnah?

(b)What would the Din be with regard to pure flax-seeds without the stalks?

(c)How do the Rabanan (quoted in a Beraisa) counter Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri's argument that the mice do not eat more because there are more Kurin?

3)

(a)The Beraisa corroborates the statements of ...

1. ... Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, who (in answer to the Kashya we just asked) establishes the Shi'ur of rice in our Mishnah by peeled rice (because by un-peeled rice, we also have to contend with the peels which get blown around).

2. ... Rebbi Yochanan Amar Rebbi Chiya establishes the flax-seeds in our Mishnah by flax-seeds still in their stalks, because the stalks tend to dry and drop off.

(b)In a case of pure flax-seeds without the stalks the loss would be less significant.

(c)The Rabanan (quoted in a Beraisa) counter Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri's argument that the mice do not eat more because there are more Kurin by pointing out to him that it is not only the mice that are responsible for the losses, but that a lot of the produce gets lost and a blown away by the wind (see also Tosfos DH 've'Chi').

4)

(a)Our Mishnah specifies how much one deducts for the losses of the various commodities listed there. Why is the Shomer responsible for those losses? Why can he not just return whatever there is, and whatever is lost, is lost?

(b)Then why can the Shomer not just ...

1. ... separate his own crops from the Pikadon and return the rest?

2. ... assess how much he used and deduct it from the total?

(c)Rabah bar bar Chanah gives the Shi'ur of Midah Merubah (of Rebbi Yehudah) as ten Kur. How do we prove that this Shi'ur is correct?

4)

(a)Our Mishnah specifies how much one deducts for the losses of the various commodities listed there. The reason that the Shomer is responsible for those losses, and does not just return whatever there is because the Tana is speaking where the Shomer mixed the crops together with his own.

(b)The Shomer cannot just ...

1. ... separate his own crops from the Pikadon and return the rest because we are speaking n a case where he constantly took from his own crops.

2. ... assess how much he used and deduct it from the total because he did not take note of how much he took.

(c)Rabah bar bar Chanah gives the Shi'ur of Midah Merubah (of Rebbi Yehudah) as ten Kur, which we prove from a Beraisa that bears it out.

5)

(a)A Beraisa expert cited a Beraisa confining our Mishnah (which deducts the Chesronos) to a case where the owner gives the Shomer the corn in the barn, and the Shomer returns it in the barn, but not if he returns it from the house it in the barn, but not if he returned it from the house. Why not?

(b)On what grounds does Rav Nachman reject this version of the Beraisa?

(c)How does he therefore amend it?

(d)Rav Papa asked Abaye why, in that case, jars of produce that are kept from the summer to the winter do not burst. It happened once that such a jar did burst. Why do other jars not burst? Why did that jar do so? (See Shitah Mekubetzes)?

5)

(a)A Beraisa expert cited a Beraisa confining our Mishnah (which deducts the Chesronos) to a case where the owner gives the Shomer the corn in the barn, and the Shomer returns it in the barn, but not if he returns it from the house because the measure that is used in the house is smaller than that of the barn, in which case he will already have deducted the difference between the two measures [though it is unclear how we then interpret 'Mipnei she'Mosiros']).

(b)Rav Nachman rejects this version of the Beraisa on the grounds that the owner would not be so stupid as to hand his crops to the Shomer with a big measuring-stick, and receive them with a small one.

(c)He therefore amends it to read that the Din of deducting only applies if the owner gives the Shomer the corn in the barn-season, and the Shomer returns it in the barn-season, but not if he returns it in the rain-season (as we explained in our Mishnah according to Rebbi Yehudah).

(d)Rav Papa asked Abaye why, in that case, jars of produce that are kept from the summer to the winter do not burst. It happened once that such a jar did burst because it was not jammed full, but jars that are will not burst, because the crops do not have room to expand (Shitah Mekubetzes).

6)

(a)The Tana Kama gives the Shi'ur of Chesronos for wine (that the Shomer mixed with his own) as a sixth (because that is how much becomes absorbed in the barrel). What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b)Our Mishnah gives the Shi'ur for the loss of oil as three Lugin per hundred. How does the Tana divide this into two different causes?

(c)What will the Din therefore be ...

1. ... if the oil is purified?

2. ... if the oil is stored in an old barrel?

(d)What does Rebbi Yehudah say about someone who purchases pure oil in the course of the year?

6)

(a)The Tana Kama gives the Shi'ur of Chesronos for wine as a sixth (which becomes absorbed in the barrel). According to Rebbi Yehudah it is a fifth.

(b)Our Mishnah gives the Shi'ur for the loss of oil as three Lugin per hundred one and a half for dregs, and one and a half for absorption.

(c)Consequently ...

1. ... if the oil is purified, or ...

2. ... if the oil is stored in an old barrel one deducts only one and a half Lugin.

(d)Rebbi Yehudah rules that someone who purchases pure oil in the course of the year must expect to receive one and a half Lugin per hundred of dregs.

7)

(a)If the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah do not argue, then (aside from the possibility that they used different kinds of earthenware) why does the former give the Shi'ur for wine as a sixth, and the latter, as a fifth?

(b)When Rav Yehudah became a wine-merchant, he sold wine which he had bought for six Zuz per barrel at six Kuzim per Zuz. Seeing as each barrel contained forty-eight Kuzim, how much profit was Rav Yehudah now making (in Kuzim), after deducting a sixth (eight Lugin [in accordance with the Tana Kama of our Mishnah])?

(c)How much profit is a merchant permitted to earn for a livelihood?

(d)Then why did Rav Yehudah not allow himself a profit of another two Kuzim to make up the sixth?

7)

(a)If the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah do not argue, then (aside from the possibility that they used different kinds of earthenware) the former gives the Shi'ur for wine as a sixth because in the town of the Tana Kama, it was customary to line the barrel with wax, which absorbs less, whereas the latter gives the Shi'ur as a fifth because in his town it was customary to line it with pitch, which absorbs more.

(b)When Rav Yehudah became a wine-merchant, he sold wine which he had bought for six Zuz per barrel at six Kuzim per Zuz. Seeing as each barrel contained forty-eight Kuzim, after deducting a sixth (eight Lugin [in accordance with the Tana Kama of our Mishnah]) Rav Yehudah was now making four Kuzim profit.

(c)A merchant is permitted to earn up to a sixth for a livelihood.

(d)Rav Yehudah did not allow a profit of another two Kuzim to make up the sixth because he also gained the barrel and the dregs, which was included in the six Zuz that he paid the producer.

8)

(a)How do we then account for the fact that the four Kuzim plus the barrel and the dregs add up to more than a sixth, which is in excess of the maximum profit permitted?

(b)'Barzenaysa' refers to the cost of fitting a tap to the barrel. Others have the text 'Karzenaysa'. What does 'Karzenaysa' mean?

8)

(a)We account for the fact that the four Kuzim plus the barrel and the dregs add up to more than a sixth, which is in excess of the maximum profit permitted by deducting the trouble to sell the wine plus the 'D'mei Barzenaysa' (the cost of fitting a tap).

(b)'Barzenaysa' refers to the cost of fitting a tap to the barrel. Others have the text 'Karzenaysa'. 'Karzenaysa' means to the cost of hiring a salesman to announce his wine and to sell it.

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9)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if the wine is placed in old barrels, the Shomer does not contend with asorption. To answer the Kashya 've'Ha I Efshar de'Lo Bala?', Rav Nachman establishes the Mishnah by barrels that have been lined with pitch. But did we not just learn earlier that the pitch itself absorbs (see Tosfos)?

(b)How does Abaye answer the Kashya?

(c)Rebbi Yehudah permits a seller of pure oil to give the purchaser one a half Lugin of dregs per hundred Lugin. The Chachamim forbid it. How does Abaye explain the basis of their Machlokes? On what grounds does Rebbi Yehudah permit adding dregs?

(d)Why can the purchaser not argue that ...

1. ... had he received the dregs mixed with the oil, he could at least have sold them, whereas as a separate entity, they are useless to him?

2. ... the fact that the seller did not mix them indicates that he was Mochel them?

9)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that if the wine is placed in old barrels, the Shomer does not contend with absorption. To answer the Kashya 've'Ha I Efshar de'Lo Bala?', Rav Nachman establishes the Mishnah by barrels that have been lined with pitch. Although we learned earlier that the pitch itself absorbs that is only in the case of new barrels, but not by old ones (which become saturated quicker than the barrels themselves (see Tosfos).

(b)Abaye dismisses the Kashya, in that once the barrels become saturated, they will no longer absorb.

(c)Rebbi Yehudah permits a seller of pure oil to give the purchaser one a half Lugin of dregs per hundred Lugin. The Chachamim forbid it. Abaye explains that according to Rebbi Yehudah, a seller is permitted to mix the dregs in the barrel of oil when selling purified oil (S'tam, without the purchaser having specified that he wants pure oil). Consequently, the seller has a 'Migu' (since he could have mixed the dregs ... ); whereas the Rabanan forbid mixing them.

(d)The purchaser cannot argue that ...

1. ... had he received the dregs mixed with the oil, he could at least have sold them, whereas as a separate entity, they are useless to him because the Mishnah is speaking (not about a store-keeper buying oil, but) about a private person (who would prefer to receive the oil in a pure state) doing so.

2. ... the fact that the seller did not mix them indicates that he was Mochel them because Rebbi Yehudah does not hold of Mechilah, as we shall now see.

10)

(a)In the Mishnah in Bava Basra, the Tana Kama holds that someone who buys a yoke has not automatically bought the oxen, and vice-versa. What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b)What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(c)Rav Papa disagrees with Abaye's interpretation of Rebbi Yehudah and the Rabanan in our Mishnah. How does he explain it, using the reverse logic?

10)

(a)In the Mishnah in Bava Basra, the Tana Kama holds that someone who buys a yoke has not automatically bought the oxen, and vice-versa. Rebbi Yehudah says that the price that the buyer pays will indicate whether the one includes the other or not (if for example, he paid two hundred Zuz for the yoke, since this is an exorbitant price to pay for a yoke, he must have meant to include the oxen in the price.

(b)The basis of their Machlokes is whether a person is Mochel the excess (the Chachamim) or not (Rebbi Yehudah).

(c)Rav Papa disagrees with Abaye's interpretation of Rebbi Yehudah and Rabanan in our Mishnah. According to him it is the Rabanan who permit the seller to mix the dregs. Should he fail to do so, the purchaser can claim that he must have been Mochel, and decline to accept them separately; whereas Rebbi Yehudah forbids the seller to mix the dregs. Consequently, were one to forbid him to mix them, what sort of businessman would he then be, if he merely sold what he bought (since the dregs constitute part of an oil-merchant's profit ['Z'von ve'Zavin Tagra Ikri'?].

11)

(a)The Beraisa equates a buyer with a depositor with regard to Piktim. What are Piktim?

(b)Why can he not mean that a depositor, like a buyer, does not need to accept them?

(c)Then what does he mean?

11)

(a)The Beraisa equates a buyer with a depositor with regard to Piktim the waste pits that float to the top of the oil (also known as 'Shemen Achur').

(b)He cannot mean that a depositor, like a purchaser, does not need to accept them because what is the Shomer supposed to do with the owner's pits?

(c)What he therefore means is that just as a depositor must accept the Piktim, so too, must the purchaser.

12)

(a)Why does Rebbi Yehudah say in a Beraisa, that the seller is obligated to retain the Piktim?

(b)How do we reconcile this with the previous Beraisa, which obligates the purchaser to accept them?

12)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah says in a Beraisa, that the seller is obligated to retain the Piktim because the purchaser is already obligated to accept the dregs.

(b)We reconcile this with the previous Beraisa, which obligates the purchaser to accept the Piktim by establishing the latter where he pays in Tishri (when the oil is cheaper because it is as yet unpurified) and receives it in Nisan, and the former, where he pays in Nisan (when the oil costs more because it has already been purified).

13)

(a)If someone deposits a barrel by his friend without designating a fixed location for it, and the barrel breaks whilst he is moving it, what distinction does the Tana of our Mishnah draw, depending upon why he was moving it?

(b)What does he say in a case where it broke ...

1. ... after he replaced it?

2. ... either before or after he replaced it, if the owner designated a specific location?

(c)We establish the Reisha of the Mishnah, which exempts the Shomer from paying once he has replaced the article, like Rebbi Yishmael. What does Rebbi Yishmael say in a Beraisa with regard to someone who stole a lamb from someone's flock or a Sela from someone's purse? What is the basis of this ruling?

(d)What Rebbi Akiva say?

(e)Why does the Tana refer specifically to where the owner did not designate a location for the barrel?

13)

(a)If someone deposits a barrel by his friend without designating a fixed location for it, and the barrel breaks whilst he is moving it, the Tana of our Mishnah draws a distinction whether it broke whilst he was moving it for his own benefit (in which case he will be liable), or for the benefit of the article (in which case he will be Patur).

(b)If it broke ...

1. ... after he replaced it he is Patur.

2. ... either before or after he replaced it, if the owner designated a specific location he is always liable if he was moving it for his own benefit, but Patur if he was moving it for the benefit of the Pikadon.

(c)We establish the Reisha of the Mishnah, which exempts the Shomer from paying once he has replaced the article, like Rebbi Yishmael, who says in a Beraisa that, if someone stole a lamb from someone's flock or a Sela from someone's purse and returned it (even without informing the owner), he is Patur, because he holds 'Lo Ba'inan Da'as Ba'alim'.

(d)According to Rebbi Akiva he will be liable, because he holds 'Ba'inan Da'as Ba'alim'.

(e)The Tana refers specifically to where the owner did not designate a location for the barrel (not to preclude where he did, but) because that would be obvious, seeing as he returned it to its designated place.