POINT BY POINT OUTLINE OF THE DAF
prepared by Rabbi Pesach Feldman of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
1) CARRYING ISUR TOGETHER WITH HETER (cont.)
(a) Support (for Rava, regarding the child with a wallet - Beraisa): If one was Motzi his garments folded on his shoulder and his sandals and rings in his hand, he is liable;
1. If he was wearing them, he is exempt.
2. If one was Motzi a clothed person with sandals on his feet and rings on his fingers, he is exempt;
3. If he was Motzi the clothes, sandals and rings by themselves, he would be liable.
(b) (Mishnah): [One may carry] a basket with a rock inside.
(c) Question: The basket should be a Bosis for something forbidden (the rock)!
(d) Answer (Rabah bar bar Chanah): The case is, the basket is full of produce (it is primarily a Bosis for Heter).
(e) Question: [Why may he carry it with the rock -] he should spill out the produce and rock, and return the produce to the basket!
(f) Answer: We answer like R. Ilai answered [a different question, below] - the case is, the produce would get dirty.
(g) Question: He should shake the basket [to separate the rock from the produce, then shake the rock out]!
(h) Answer (R. Chiya bar Ashi): The case is, the rock plugs up a hole in the basket. (Tosfos Yeshanim is unsure whether or not we must still say that the basket holds produce that would get dirty.)
(i) (Mishnah): One may move Tamei Terumah [with Tahor...]
(j) (Rav Chisda): This is only if the Tahor Terumah is on bottom and the Tamei is on top - if the Tahor is on top, one must remove it and leave the Tamei in its place.
(k) Question: Even when the Tahor is on bottom, he should spill everything out and return the Tahor to the basket!
(l) Answer (R. Ilai): The case is, the produce would get dirty.
(m) Question (Beraisa): One may move Tamei Terumah with Tahor Terumah or Chulin, whether the Tahor is on top and the Tamei on bottom, or vice-versa.
(n) Rav Chisda is refuted.
(o) Answer (Rav Chisda): The Mishnah discusses when one needs the Tahor Terumah itself (to eat it), the Beraisa discusses when he needs its place.
(p) Question: What forced Rav Chisda to establish the Mishnah when he needs the Tahor Terumah itself?
(q) Answer (Rava): The Seifa (coming Mishnah) shows that Rav Chisda is correct!
1. (Seifa): If coins are on a pillow, he shakes the pillow and they fall off.
2. (Rabah bar bar Chanah): This is only if he needs the pillow itself - if he needs its place, he may move it with the coins on it.
3. Just as in the Seifa he needs the Heter itself, also in the Reisha!
2) FIXING MEDUMA ON SHABBOS
(a) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): We may even Ma'aleh Meduma...
(b) Question: Why is this permitted - he fixes (permits) the Meduma!
(c) Answer #1: R. Yehudah holds like R. Eliezer, who considers the Terumah to be by itself (not mixed in, whatever is removed is the Terumah):
1. (Mishnah - R. Eliezer): If one Se'ah of Terumah fell into less than 100 Sa'im of Chulin, and some of the mixture fell into other Chulin, it forbids like pure Terumah;
2. Chachamim say, it forbids only according to the proportion of Terumah in the first mixture (we assume that it mixed uniformly).
(d) Rejection: This shows that R. Eliezer is stringent to assume that what was removed was the Terumah itself - this is no source to say that he assumes this to be lenient!
(e) Answer #2: R. Yehudah holds like R. Shimon (who assumes this to be lenient):
1. (Mishnah): If one Se'ah of Terumah fell into 100 Sa'im of Chulin, and before a Se'ah was removed another Se'ah of Terumah fell in, the mixture is forbidden (there are two Sa'im of Terumah and 100 of Chulin);
2. R. Shimon permits (it is as if the first Terumah that fell was not mixed in).
(f) Rejection: No, perhaps this is the argument - the first Tana considers it as if both fell at the same time, the Chulin is only 50 times the Terumah; R. Shimon says that each is Batul the moment it falls in, each fell into 100 or (regarding the latter) 101 Chulin.
(g) Answer #3: R. Yehudah holds like R. Shimon ben Elazar:
1. (Beraisa - R. Shimon ben Elazar): One may intend to Ma'aleh Meduma from one area of the mixture and eat from the rest of it (before physically separating it. Since it is permitted without separating, separating is not considered Tikun.)
(h) Question: R. Yehudah does not hold like R. Shimon ben Elazar!
1. (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): We may Ma'aleh Meduma if there is 101 [in the mixture];
2. R. Shimon ben Elazar says, he intends to Ma'aleh from one area and eats from the rest.
(i) Answer: Indeed, R. Yehudah is more lenient than R. Shimon ben Elazar
3) REMOVING ISUR FROM HETER ON SHABBOS
(a) (Mishnah): If a rock is on a barrel, one tilts the barrel and the rock falls;
(b) If [he cannot do so because] it is between other barrels, he picks it up and tilts it and the rock falls.
(c) If coins are on a pillow, he shakes the pillow and they fall off.
(d) If there was filth on the pillow, he may clean it with a rag;
1. If it is of leather, he may pour water on it until it is clean (but does not properly wash it).
(e) (Gemara - Rav): This is only if he forgot the rock - if he intentionally left it on, the barrel is a Bosis for Isur.
(f) Question: Who is our Tana, who says that whenever there is Heter and Isur we deal with the Heter, not with the Isur?
(g) Answer (Rabah bar bar Chanah): It is R. Shimon ben Gamliel:
1. (Mishnah - Beis Shamai): If one selects pulse (a legume) on Yom Tov, he selects the food and eats it;
2. Beis Hillel say, he selects normally (Pesoles from the food,) but using his garment or a bowl;
3. (Beraisa - R. Shimon ben Gamliel): This is when there is more food than Pesoles - if there is more Pesoles, all agree that he selects the food and eats it (Rashi - for this is less exertion; R. Tam - in this case the Pesoles is Batul to the food).
(h) Question: In our Mishnah, there is more Heter (the barrel) than Pesoles - R. Shimon should permit to take the rock!
(i) Answer: Since he cannot take the barrel until removing the rock, it is as if there is more Pesoles.
(j) (Mishnah): If it is between other barrels, he picks it up...
(k) (Beraisa - R. Yosi): If the barrel was in a storehouse, or if there were glass Kelim nearby, he lifts the barrel and takes it elsewhere, then tilts it and the rock falls, then he takes what he needs and returns it to its place. (The final clause teaches that the barrel is not a Bosis at all, he may return it even if he has no further need for it.)
(l) (Mishnah): If coins are on a pillow...
(m) (R. Chiya bar Ashi): This is only if he forgot it - if he intentionally left it on, the pillow is a Bosis for Isur.
(n) (Rabah bar bar Chanah): This is only if he needs the pillow itself - if he needs its place, he may move it with the coins on it.
4) CARRYING WITH A LOAF OR CHILD ON SHABBOS
(a) (Mishnah): If coins are on a pillow, he shakes...
(b) (R. Oshaya): If one forgot a wallet in a Chatzer, he puts a loaf or child on top of it and moves the wallet (with the loaf or child).
(c) (Rav Yitzchak): If one forgot a brick in a Chatzer, he puts a loaf or child on top of it and moves them together.
(d) (Rav Yehudah bar Shila): Once, a sack of coins was forgotten in Reshus ha'Rabim; R. Yochanan told them to put a loaf or child on top and move it [less than four Amos at a time; alternatively, they would make a wall of people around to permit carrying more than four Amos at a time].
(e) (Mar Zutra): The Halachah follows all of these teachings when the Muktzeh was forgotten.
(f) (Rav Ashi): It is forbidden even when it was forgotten - the leniency to put a loaf or child on top and carry applies only to a Mes [that might decay in the sun, on account of Kavod ha'Briyos].
(g) Abaye would put a spoon on top of sheaves [to permit carrying them]; Rava would put a knife on top of a [raw, unsalted] dove.
(h) Rav Yosef: Chachamim only permitted for one who forgot, not to intend to move this way!
(i) Abaye: Really, I could move the sheaves by themselves, they are fitting to lie on - I am important, therefore I am stringent to put a spoon on top (lest people learn from me to be lenient).
(j) Rava: Really, I could move the dove by itself, it could be eaten raw - I am important, therefore I put a knife on top.