MENACHOS 100 - Dedicated by Andy and Nancy Neff in memory of Lucy Rabin, Leah Miriam bat Yisroel. Beloved mother of Nancy Neff, Valerie, Doug and Andy Rabin, and wife of Sidney Rabin, Lucy Rabin passed away on 14 Sivan 5767.

1)

(a)If, as Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan explained, the Kohanim who ate the goat raw were really Alexandri'im, why does the Tana refer to them as Bavli'im?

(b)And we support this with Rebbi Yossi in a Beraisa. What did Rebbi Yehudah mean when he acknowledged Rebbi Yossi's statement with the words Tanu'ach Da'atcha she'Hinachta Da'ati?

1)

(a)Even though the Kohanim who ate the goat raw were Alexandri'im, as Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan explained, the Tana nevertheless refers to them as Bavli'im - because the Yerushalmim disliked the Bavli'im (so they would refer to whoever had bad habits, as a Bavli [see Tosfos DH 'she'Son'in').

(b)And we support this with Rebbi Yossi in a Beraisa. When Rebbi Yehudah acknowledged Rebbi Yossi's statement with Tanu'ach Da'atcha she'Hinachta Da'ati, he meant that - he was grateful to him for attributing this bad habit to the Alexandri'im and not to the Bavli'im, since his family were from Bavel.

2)

(a)Our Mishnah renders Pasul the Avodah, in a case where they arranged the Bazichin only on Motza'ei Shabbos (even if the Lechem ha'Panim were in place already on Shabbos), if the Kohen then burns the Bazichin on the following Shabbos. Why is that?

(b)The Tana adds that Pigul, Nosar and Tamei will not apply in this case. What does he mean by Pigul? What is the case?

(c)Why is Pigul not applicable?

(d)Why is the Lechem not subject to ...

1. ... Nosar?

2. ... Tumah (Kareis for eating it be'Tum'as ha'Guf)?

2)

(a)Our Mishnah renders Pasul the Avodah, in a case where they arranged the Bazichin only on Motza'ei Shabbos (even if the Lechem ha'Panim were in place already on Shabbos), if the Kohen then burns the Bazichin on the following Shabbos - because, since they were not on the table for seven full days, they are premature until the Shabbos after that.

(b)The Tana adds that Pigul, Nosar and Tamei will not apply in this case. By Pigul, he means that - the Kohen burned the Bazichin with the intention of eating the Lechem the following day.

(c)Pigul is not applicable - because the Matir (the Bazichin) was not brought in the prescribed manner (she'Lo Kirev ha'Matir ke'Mitzvaso).

(d)The Lechem is not subject to ...

1. ... Nosar - because whatever is not edible, is not subject to Nosar.

2. ... Tumah (Kareis for eating it be'Tum'as ha'Guf) - because one is only Chayav Kareis for eating be'Tum'ah something that can be eaten be'Taharah.

3)

(a)What must the Kohanim then do for the Avodas ha'Bazichin and the Lechem ha'Panim to be Kasher?

(b)When does the Lechem ha'Panim become Pasul be'Linah?

3)

(a)For the Avodas ha'Bazichin and the Lechem ha'Panim to be Kasher - the Kohanim must leave the loaves on the Shulchan until the second Shabbos.

(b)The Lechem ha'Panim cannot become Pasul be'Linah - until they have spent two Shabbasos on the Shulchan.

4)

(a)The Mishnah in Tamid discusses the time of the Shechitas ha'Tamid. What is the significance of the word Barkai? Who said it, and where was he standing?

(b)Matisya ben Shmuel (the Memuneh [officer] in his time) would ask whether the first rays of the sun had reached as far as Chevron. When did he ask this? Why did he mention specifically Chevron?

(c)Why was this entire ceremony necessary? What happened once to spark it off?

(d)They then sent the Kohen Gadol to Tovel a second time, as the Sugya explains in Yoma. Based on the K'lal in the Beis-Hamikdash, who needed to Tovel and who needed to perform only Kidush Yadayim ve'Raglayim?

4)

(a)The Mishnah in Tamid discusses the time of the Shechitas ha'Tamid. Barkai (meaning it has become day) was said - by any Kohen who, in response to the Memuneh [officer]'s question whether the time to Shecht the Tamid had arrived, would climb up on to the roof and ascertain that it had.

(b)Matisya ben Shmuel (the Menuneh in his time) would ask on Yom Kippur whether the first rays of the sun had reached as far as Chevron. He mentioned Chevron - in order to evoke the Z'chus Avos on that auspicious day.

(c)This entire ceremony became necessary - when, mistaking the light of the moon for the first rays of the sun, they once Shechted the Tamid too early, and subsequently had to send it to the Beis ha'Sereifah.

(d)They then sent the Kohen Gadol to Tovel a second time, as the Sugya explains in Yoma. Based on the K'lal in the Beis-Hamikdash - whoever relieves himself, li'Gedolim, requires Tevilah; li'Ketanim, needs only Kidush Yadayim ve'Raglayim.

5)

(a)The father of Rebbi Avin cited a Beraisa. What does the Tana there say about an Olas ha'Of on which a Kohen performs Melikah or a Minchah on which he performs Kemitzah, at night time?

(b)Olas ha'Of presents no problem, because once it has been killed, there is nothing that can be done to bring it back to life. What problem do we have with the Beraisa's second ruling regarding the Minchah?

(c)How did Rebbi Avin's father, who asked the Kashya, answer it? What principle can we learn from the Beraisa regarding K'lei Shareis?

5)

(a)The father of Rebbi Avin cited a Beraisa. The Tana there rules that an Olas ha'Of on which a Kohen performs Melikah and a Minchah on which he performs Kemitzah at night time - are Pasul.

(b)Olas ha'Of presents no problem, because once it has been killed, there is nothing that can be done to bring it back to life. The problem with the Beraisa's second ruling regarding the Minchah is - why it is not possible to return the Kemitzah to the Shirayim and to repeat the Kemitzah after daybreak.

(c)Rebbi Avin's father, who asked the Kashya, answered it - with the principle K'lei Shareis Mekadshin she'Lo bi'Zemanan, in which case, the Kometz became Kadosh and cannot be returned to the Shirayim.

6)

(a)We query Avuhah de'Rebbi Avin's answer however, from a Beraisa. What does the Tana say about whatever is brought ...

1. ... by day?

2. ... by night?

(b)Which Kodshim can be sacrificed by night?

(c)We can extrapolate from the Beraisa's first statement that ba'Yom In, ba'Laylah Lo (a Kashya on Avuhah de'Rebbi Avin's answer). How do we reconcile them?

(d)What does Rebbi Zeira still ask on him from the Seifa of our Mishnah, which permits leaving the Lechem ha'Panim and the Bazichin that were placed on the Shulchan after Shabbos until two Shabbasos time?

6)

(a)We query Avuhah de'Rebbi Avin's answer however, from a Beraisa, where the Tana rules that whatever is brought ...

1. ... by day - is sanctified by day.

2. ... by night - is sanctified by night.

(b)The Minchas Nesachim - can be sacrificed by night.

(c)We can extrapolate from the Beraisa's first statement that ba'Yom In, ba'Laylah Lo (a Kashya on Avuhah de'Rebbi Avin's answer). We reconcile them - by differentiating between whether they are being sanctified to be brought on the Mizbe'ach (the latter Beraisa), or to be subject to becoming Pasul (Avuhah de'Rebbi Avin).

(d)Rebbi Zeira still asks on him however, from the Seifa of our Mishnah, which permits leaving the Lechem ha'Panim and the Bazichin that were placed on the Shulchan after Shabbos until two Shabbasos time. According to what we just explained, this ought to be forbidden, because the loaves should become Pasul be'Linah that same night.

7)

(a)Rabah liked Rebbi Zeira's Kashya. Yet Rebbi Avin's father cited a Beraisa (which cannot just be dismissed). So how does Rabah explain why, on the one hand, the Kometz is Pasul (prematurely), whereas on the other hand, the Lechem ha'Panim are not?

(b)This answer is not fully satisfactory however, since there is still reason to believe that the Lechem ha'Panim ought to become sanctified. When is that?

(c)How does Ravina finally establish the Mishnah, to reconcile it with Rebbi Avin's father?

(d)Mar Zutra (or Rav Ashi) disagrees. Why, according to him, can the loaves not become Pasul, even if they are not removed before Bein ha'Shemashos on Erev Shabbos?

7)

(a)Rabah liked Rebbi Zeira's Kashya. Yet Rebbi Avin's father cited a Beraisa (which cannot just be dismissed). So he explains that the Kometz becomes Pasul - due to the principle Laylah La'av Mechusar Z'man (since basically, the night follows the day, in which case, the Kemitzah was sanctified in its right time [only for whatever reason, Avodah is Pasul at night-time]). The Lechem ha'Panim on the other hand, which were placed on the Shulchan six days too early, are really Mechusar Z'man (in which case the Shulchan cannot sanctify the loaves to render them Pasul).

(b)This answer is not fully satisfactory however, since there is still reason to believe that - the Lechem ha'Panim ought to become sanctified the following Friday night (the night before they are due to become sanctified).

(c)To reconcile the Mishnah with Rebbi Avin's father, Ravina finally establishes our Mishnah - where they removed the loaves before Bein ha'Shemashos of Erev Shabbos and returned them on the following day.

(d)Mar Zutra (or Rav Ashi) however maintains that the loaves cannot become Pasul, even if they are not removed before dusk of Erev Shabbos - because, since they were placed prematurely, it is as if a monkey had arranged them on the Shulchan, and they cannot become Pasul.

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8)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses the times when the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim can be baked and subsequently eaten. According to the Tana Kama, when are the Sh'tei ha'Lechem eaten on ...

1. ... the second day (after they were baked)?

2. ... the third day?

(b)And when are the Lechem ha'Panim eaten on ...

1. ... the ninth day (after they were baked)?

2. ... the tenth day?

3. ... the eleventh day?

(c)Which principle governs these Halachos?

(d)Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel partially disagrees with the Tana Kama. What does he say?

8)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses the times when the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim could be baked and subsequently eaten. According to the Tana Kama, the Sh'tei ha'Lechem are eaten on ...

1. ... the second day (after they were baked) - when Erev Shavu'os falls on a weekday.

2. ... the third day - when it falls on Shabbos.

(b)And the Lechem ha'Panim are eaten on ...

1. ... the ninth day (after they were baked) - if the Friday (the day before they are arranged on the Shulchan) is a regular weekday.

2. ... the tenth day - if Friday is a Yom-Tov.

3. ... the eleventh day - if Friday is the second day of Rosh Hashanah.

(c)The principle that governs these Halachos is that - the baking of the loaves overrides neither Shabbos nor Yom-Tov.

(d)Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel agrees with the Tana Kama that - the baking does not override Shabbos, but not that it does not override Yom-Tov.

9)

(a)The Sugya in Beitzah cites a Machlokes whether or not, Nedarim and Nedavos may be brought on Yom-Tov. What are the two possible ways of explaining the opinion that holds that they may not?

(b)Assuming that it is mi'de'Rabbanan, what is the reason for the decree?

(c)How does Ravina prove from our Mishnah that it cannot be de'Rabbanan?

9)

(a)The Sugya in Beitzah cites a Machlokes whether or not, Nedarim and Nedavos may be brought on Yom-Tov. The two possible ways of explaining the opinion that holds that they may not are a. mi'd'Oraysa, b. mi'de'Rabbanan.

(b)Assuming that it is mi'de'Rabbanan, the reason for the decree is - because they were afraid that people might then delay bringing their Korbanos until Yom-Tov (Shema Yashheh), which, besides being intrinsically forbidden, will also lead them to transgress bal Te'acher (failing to bring one's Korban within its prescribed time-limit).

(c)Ravina proves from our Mishnah however, that it cannot be mi'de'Rabbanan - because then, the Isur of bringing the Sh'tei ha'Lechem (which is obviously less stringent that Nedarim and Nedavos) must also be only mi'de'Rabbanan. However, seeing as Shema Yashheh does not apply here, there would be no reason to forbid baking the Sh'tei ha'Lechem on Yom-Tov.

Hadran alach 'Sh'tei ha'Lechem'

Perek ha'Menachos ve'ha'Nesachim

10)

(a)According to our Mishnah, when are Menachos and Nesachim which become Tamei, subject to Pidyon (redemption), and when are they not?

(b)Why is that? What is the difference between their status before Kidush K'li and afterwards?

(c)What does the Tana also say about Ofos, Eitzim, Levonah and K'lei Shareis?

(d)What reason does he give for the latter ruling?

10)

(a)According to our Mishnah, Menachos and Nesachim which become Tamei, are subject to Pidyon (redemption) - before they have been sanctified in a K'li, but not afterwards.

(b)The reason for this is because - before Kidush K'li they have the status of Kedushas Damim (which is subject to Pidyon, and the money becomes Kadosh) whereas afterwards - they adopt the status of Kedushas ha'Guf, which is not.

(c)The Tana also rules that - Ofos, Eitzim, Levonah and K'lei Shareis that became Tamei - cannot be redeemed ...

(d)... because the redemption of Kedushas ha'Guf is confined to animals after they become blemished.

11)

(a)Shmuel remarked that mi'she'Nitme'u in the Reisha (with regard to Menachos and Nesachim is La'av Davka). Why did he say that?

(b)Then why does the Tana say mi'she'Nitme'u?

11)

(a)Shmuel remarked that mi'she'Nitme'u in the Reisha (with regard to Menachos and Nesachim is La'av Davka). He said that - because since their Kedushah is only Kedushas Damim, (as we explained), there is no reason why they should not be redeemed even if they are Tahor.

(b)And the reason that the Tana says it is - to teach us that the Seifa mi'she'Kidshu bi'Cheli Ein lahem Pidyon, speaks even if they are Tamei.

12)

(a)On what grounds do we query this explanation?

(b)What do we answer? What is the Chidush of the Seifa?

(c)Then on what grounds do we reject that? Why will the comparison not work?

(d)How will this apply even to an animal of Hekdesh? Which K'li Shareis sanctifies it after it has become blemished?

12)

(a)We query this explanation however - on the grounds that this too, is obvious. Why would we otherwise have thought that Kedushas ha'Guf without a blemish can be redeemed, just because it is Tamei?

(b)And we answer that - we would indeed have thought so, because, since the Torah refers to a Ba'al-Mum as Tamei, perhaps Tum'ah will have the same Din as a blemish as regards Pidyon.

(c)But we reject that answer - because the comparison of a Ba'al Mum to Tamei only applies up to the time that the animal is sanctified with a K'li Shareis. But once it is, it is obvious that it cannot be redeemed.

(d)This applies even to an animal of Hekdesh - that is Shechted after it has become blemished, and which is no longer redeemable, since it has become sanctified - via the knife.

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