1)

(a)What She'eilah does Rami bar Chama ask regarding the ripening of the fruit (grapes and olives) that is permitted by the Sh'tei ha'Lechem (to be brought as Korbanos).

(b)Why can this not be referring to the blossoming and the budding of the fruit?

(c)Then to what is it referring?

(d)What is then the She'eilah?

(e)What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

1)

(a)Rami bar Chama asks - whether the fruit (grapes and olives) that is permitted by the Sh'tei ha'Lechem (to be brought as Korbanos) must have reached the stage of Hanatzah (blossoming) or Chanatah (budding, a later stage than Hanatzah [see Shitah Mekubetzes 1]).

(b)This cannot be referring to the blossoming and the budding of the fruit - because if, as we have already learned, the Hashrashah (taking root) of the crops is the required stage for them to become permitted, then it is obvious that one does not need to wait for either the Chanatah or the Hanatzah of fruit to permit it.

(c)It must therefore be referring to - the Hanatzah and Chanatah of the leaves.

(d)And the She'eilah is - which one of them is equivalent to the Hashrashah of the crops (that permits it with the bringing of the Sh'tei ha'Lechem).

(e)The outcome of the She'eilah is - Teiku (Tishbi Yetaretz Kushyos ve'Ibayos).

2)

(a)Rava bar Rav Chanin asked whether the Omer will permit wheat that one planted in the ground to be eaten. Initially, we dismiss this She'eilah on the basis of the next Mishnah. What does the next Mishnah say?

(b)How do we therefore establish the case?

(c)What is then the She'eilah? Why might the Omer ...

1. ... permit it?

2. ... not permit it?

(d)He also asked whether that wheat will be subject to Ona'ah (overcharging by more than a sixth) or not. What is the basis of that She'eilah? Why might it not be?

2)

(a)Rava bar Rav Chanin asked whether the Omer will permit wheat that one planted in the ground to be eaten. Initially, we dismiss this She'eilah on the basis of the next Mishnah - which makes a clear distinction in this regard between crops that took root before the Omer was brought and those that did not.

(b)We therefore establish the case - where the wheat had already taken root before it was cut the first time.

(c)And the She'eilah is - whether the Omer will ...

1. ... permit it - because it did after all, take root before the Omer (and replanting it in the ground is no different than placing it in a jar).

2. ... not permit it - because when they replanted it, it became Bateil to the ground and would therefore not be permitted until the Omer of the following year.

(d)He also asked whether that wheat will be subject to Ona'ah (overcharging by more than a sixth) or not - since according to the second side of the She'eilah, it has a Din of Karka, and Karka is not subject to Ona'ah (as we learned in Bava Metzi'a).

3)

(a)The She'eilah would not be valid if it referred to a case where the seller planted only five Kur instead of six, due to a statement of Rava. What did Rava say about Davar she'ba'Midah, she'be'Mishkal, ve'she'ba'Minyan? Why is that?

(b)How would that negate the She'eilah?

(c)What is the underlying reason for this?

(d)So what is the case to which the She'eilah is referring?

3)

(a)The She'eilah would not be valid if it referred to a case where the seller planted only five Kur instead of six, since Rava ruled that Davar she'ba'Midah, she'be'Mishkal, ve'she'ba'Minyan - Afilu Pachos mi'Chedei Ona'ah, Chozer - because the concept of Mechilah (foregoing a small discrepancy [the basis of a discrepancy of less than a sixth being fully valid]) is simply not applicable there where the parties stipulate exact measurements.

(b)Consequently, the She'eilah would then be negated - seeing as the purchaser stipulated an exact amount ...

(c)... turning it into a case of Bitul Mekach (and not Ona'ah) - and Bitul Mekach applies to Karka no less than to Metaltelin.

(d)The case must therefore be - where the purchaser asked for the wheat to be planted properly, but the seller distributed the seeds badly (thereby devaluing the crops), and the Halachah will depend upon whether the wheat has the Din of Karka or Metaltelin, as we explained.

4)

(a)What third She'eilah did Rava bar Rav Chanin pose, also based on the original question as to whether wheat that is cut before having taken root a second time is considered Karka or Metaltelin?

(b)What is the basis of this She'eilah?

(c)Rami bar Chama then asks what the Din will be regarding grains of wheat that one finds in animal's dung. He cannot be asking whether they are ...

1. ... subject to Tum'as Ochlin, due to a Beraisa. What distinction does the Tana draw between whether the owner has in mind to eat them or whether he actually removes them?

2. ... eligible to be brought as Menachos in their present form or not. Why not?

(d)So we establish the case where the owner re-planted them, in which case they are no longer disgusting. So what is the She'eilah? Why might they then not be eligible to bring as a Minchah?

(e)What is the outcome of both this She'eilah and those of Rava bar Rav Chanin?

4)

(a)The third She'eilah that Rava bar Rav Chanin posed, also based on the original question as to whether wheat that is cut before having taken root a second time is considered Karka or Metaltelin is - whether it is subject to a Shevu'ah (if the seller admits to selling part of the claim, or where there is one witness to support the claim).

(b)The basis of this She'eilah is - the principle Ein Nishba'in al ha'Karka'os (Karka is not subject to a Shevu'ah, as we also learned in Bava Metzi'a).

(c)Rami bar Chama then asks what the Din will be regarding grains of wheat that one finds in animal's dung. He cannot be asking whether they are ...

1. ... subject to Tum'as Ochlin, due to a Beraisa which draws a distinction between - whether the owner only had in mind to eat them (in which case they are not subject to Tum'as Ochlin, since they are currently inedible) or whether he actually removed them (in which case they are).

2. ... eligible to be brought as Menachos in their present form - because based on the Pasuk in Malachi "Hakriveihu Na le'Pechasecha!" (Would you give that to *your* king) - it would not be acceptable, irrespective of its status.

(d)So we establish the case where the owner re-planted them, in which case they are no longer disgusting. Nevertheless, they might not be eligible to bring as a Minchah - because grains that have passed through the digestive system of an animal are weak and do not grow well.

(e)The outcome of both this She'eilah and those of Rava bar Rav Chanin is - Teiku.

5)

(a)Rami bar Chama asked what the Din will be regarding an Egyptian wickerwork basket that an elephant swallowed whole and then exuded by way of its back-passage. The She'eilah cannot be whether the basket loses its Din of Tum'ah, due to a Mishnah in Keilim. What does the Tana there say about Keilim ...

1. ... becoming subject to Tum'ah?

2. ... losing their Tum'ah once they are already Tamei?

(b)So how do we establish the case?

(c)What is now the She'eilah? Why might it ...

1. ... not be subject even to Tum'ah mi'de'Rabbanan?

2. ... be subject to Tum'ah (even mi'd'Oraysa)?

(d)Which two other kinds of Keilim are not subject to Tum'ah, even mi'de'Rabbanan?

5)

(a)Rami bar Chama asked what the Din will be regarding an Egyptian wickerwork basket that an elephant swallowed whole and then exuded by way of its back-passage. The She'ilah cannot be whether the basket loses its Din of Tum'ah, due to a Mishnah in Keilim, where the Tana rules ...

1. ... that Keilim can become subject to Tum'ah with Machshavah alone (such as a large piece of leather designated to make shoes, which the owner subsequently decides to use as a table as it is).

2. ... that they cannot lose their Tum'ah once they are already Tamei - unless one actually effects a major change in them (by breaking them).

(b)So we establish the case - by an elephant that swallowed Lulav leaves and exuded them in the form of a wickerwork basket.

(c)And the She'eilah is whether it is ...

1. ... not subject even to Tum'ah mi'de'Rabbanan - because seeing as it passed through the elephant's digestive system, it is called Ikul (digested), and is considered dung, which is one of the three things listed in the Mishnah in Keilim that are not subject to Tum'ah (even mi'de'Rabbanan).

2. ... subject to Tum'ah (even mi'd'Oraysa) - because since (in spite of the elephant's digestive system) the basket emerged still in the form of palm-leaves, it is not called Ikul, and is therefore considered (not a dung-basket, but) a wooden one.

(d)The two other kinds of Keilim that are not subject to Tum'ah, even mi'de'Rabbanan - are Keilim made of stone and of earth.

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6)

(a)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a ruling of Ula quoting Rebbi Yehoshua ben Yehotzadak regarding the story of two wolves. What did two wolves once do in Eiver ha'Yarden?

(b)How did Rebbi Yehoshua ben Yehotzadak quoting the Chachamim, rule there?

(c)What do we try to prove from there?

(d)We refute the proof ...

1. ... however, because Basar is different. In what way is Basar different?

2. ... from the Seifa ve'Tim'u es ha'Atzamos (a proof that it is not considered Ikul). On what grounds do we refute that proof as well?

6)

(a)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a ruling of Ula quoting Rebbi Yehoshua ben Yehotzadak regarding the story of two wolves - that swallowed two children in Eiver ha'Yarden.

(b)Rebbi Yehoshua ben Yehotzadak, quoting the Chachamim rule there that - the Basar is Tahor (because it is called Ikul, even though the Basar emerged whole).

(c)We try to prove from there that - regarding our She'eilah too, this is called Ikul, even though the leaves came out whole.

(d)We refute the proof ...

1. ... however, because Basar is different - since (compared to Lulav leaves) it is soft.

2. ... from the Seifa ve'Tim'u es ha'Atzamos (a proof that it is not considered Ikul) - because (again compared to Lulav leaves) bones are hard.

7)

(a)Rebbi Zeira asked what the Din will be regarding wheat that fell from the clouds. How did the wheat get there in the first place?

(b)Why can the She'eilah not be whether they are eligible to be used for Menachos?

(c)So we establish the She'eilah as to whether they are eligible to be used for the Sh'tei ha'Lechem. Based on the Pasuk "mi'Moshvoseichem", 'la'Afukei Chutz la'Aretz', why might this wheat ...

1. ... nevertheless be eligible?

2. ... be disqualified, too?

(d)In answer to the question whether such a thing is feasible, we answer 'In, bar Adi Tay'a N'chisa lei Rum Kizba Chiti bi'Telasa Parsi'. What does this mean?

7)

(a)Rebbi Zeira asked what the Din will be regarding wheat that fell from the clouds - which entered the clouds when they sucked up a boat transporting wheat from the ocean (see also Tosfos DH 'Chitin').

(b)The She'eilah cannot be whether they are eligible to be used for Menachos - since there is no reason why not.

(c)So we establish the She'eilah as to whether they are eligible to be used for the Sh'tei ha'Lechem. Based on the Pasuk "mi'Moshvoseichem", 'la'Afukei Chutz la'Aretz', they might ...

1. ... nevertheless be eligible - because they did not come from Chutz la'Aretz.

2. ... be disqualified, too - since they did not come from Eretz Yisrael.

(d)In answer to the question whether such a thing is feasible, we answer 'In, bar Adi Tay'a N'chisa lei Rum Kizba Chiti bi'Telasa Parsi' - It happened to bar Ada the Arab, who received a load of wheat measuring three Parshah by one Tefach deep in this way.

8)

(a)Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi asked what the Din will be if, before the Omer, one uproots oats that are one third grown, and replants them after the Omer. What is the significance of one third grown? What will be the Din if they have grown less than that?

(b)What is now the She'eilah? Why might the Omer ...

1. ... permit the oats?

2. ... not permit them?

(c)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a statement of Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan in connection with Kil'ayim. What is the Shi'ur of Bitul by Kil'ayim?

8)

(a)Rebbi Shimon ben Pazi asked what the Din will be if, before the Omer, one uproots stalks of wheat that are one third grown, and replants them after the Omer. If they have grown less than that - it will be considered Shachas (which is only fit for animals and), which is not permitted by the Omer.

(b)The She'eilah now is whether the Omer ...

1. ... permits them - because one goes after the Ikar (the initial growth), which grew before the Omer, or ...

2. ... after the Tosefes (which grew afterwards), in which case, they are not permitted until next year's Omer.

(c)We try to resolve the She'eilah from a statement of Rebbi Avahu Amar Rebbi Yochanan in connection with Kil'ayim - which is normally Bateil in two hundred.

9)

(a)What does Rebbi ...

1. ... Avahu rule in a case where one grafts a branch of Orlah with fruit into an old tree, and the fruit increases by two hundred percent after it has been grafted?

2. ... Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini Amar Rebbi Yonasan rule in the case of an onion that is planted in a vineyard, and that grows by two hundred percent after the vineyard has been uprooted?

(b)What is the reason for these two rulings?

(c)Why is the Ikar not Bateil in two hundred in this case?

(d)On what grounds do we refute the proof from there that we go after the Ikar (in which case the oats will be permitted?

(e)What is now the outcome of the She'eilah?

9)

(a)Rebbi ...

1. ... Avahu rules in a case where one grafts a branch of Orlah with fruit into an old tree, and the fruit increases by two hundred percent after it has been grafted that - the fruit nevertheless remains forbidden (because of Orlah).

2. ... Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini Amar Rebbi Yonasan rules likewise, that in the case of a baby onion that is planted in a vineyard, and that grows by two hundred percent after the vineyard has been uprooted - the onion remains forbidden.

(b)The reason for these two rulings is - because we go after the Ikar (and not after the Tosefes).

(c)The Ikar is not Bateil in two hundred in this case - because they are all part of the same fruit.

(d)We refute the proof from there that we go after the Ikar (in which case the stalks of wheat will be permitted) - because we are not sure whether the above Rabbanan go after the Ikar out of conviction (in which case they will do the same in our case too, even though it means going le'Kula); or whether they do so out of doubt (in which case they will go le'Chumra both ways, and forbid the stalks in our case, in case we are supposed to go after the growth).

(e)Once again, the outcome of the She'eilah is - Teiku.

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