MENACHOS 67 (7 Cheshvan) - we honor ha'Gaon Rav Meir Shapiro,
creator of the Dafyomi study cycle. (See here for more.)

1)

(a)Rava maintains that Gilgul Hekdesh is Patur. What is Gilgul Hekdesh?

(b)What does Rava then mean?

(c)And he bases his statement on a Mishnah in Chalah. What does the Tana there rule in a case where someone declares his dough Hekdesh and redeems it ...

1. ... before having kneaded it?

2. ... after having kneaded it?

(d)In which case then, does the Tana exempt the dough from Chalah?

1)

(a), Rava maintains that Gilgul Hekdesh - a dough that is kneaded in the domain of Hekdesh, is Patur ...

(b)... from Chalah.

(c)And he bases his statement on a Mishnah in Chalah, which rules that someone who declares his dough Hekdesh and then redeems it either ...

1. ... before kneading it or ...

2. ... after kneading it - is Chayav to take Chalah.

(d)The Tana exempts the dough from Chalah however - in a case where the owner redeems it after the treasurer of Hekdesh has kneaded it.

2)

(a)Rava asks whether the kneading of a Nochri will also exempt a dough from Chalah. We try to resolve the She'eilah with a Mishnah in Chalah. What distinction does the YTana there draw between a Ger who has a dough that he kneaded before he converted and one that he kneaded after he converted?

(b)What does the Tana say about a case where the Ger is unsure as to when he kneaded it?

(c)We now query who is the author of this Mishnah. Given that Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah in the Mishnah (in D'mai) that we discussed earlier, learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Degancha" 've'Lo Digun (Miru'ach) Hekdesh', what do they learn from the second "Degancha" (in Shoftim).

2)

(a)Rava asks whether the kneading of a Nochri will also exempt a dough from Chalah. We try to resolve the She'eilah with a Mishnah in Chalah - which exempts a Ger from Ma'asering a dough that he kneaded before he converted, but obligates him to Ma'aser one that he kneaded after he converted.

(b)Where the Ger is unsure as to when he kneaded it - the Tana rules that he is obligated to separate Ma'asros (due to the principle 'S'feika d'Oraysa le'Chumra').

(c)We now query who is the author of this Mishnah. Given that Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah in the Mishnah (in D'mai) that we discussed earlier, learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Degancha" 've'Lo Digun (Miru'ach) Hekdesh' - they learn from the second "Degancha" that - Digun Nochri is Chayav (due to the principle Ein Miy'ut Achar Miy'ut Ela Lerabos).

3)

(a)On what grounds do Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah include the Digun of a Nochri and preclude that of Hekdesh (and not vice-versa)?

(b)What do we learn from the two times that the Torah writes "Arisoseichem" in Parshas Sh'lach-Lecha?

(c)Alternatively, the author might be Rebbi Yossi and Rebbi Shimon, who exempt Digun Nochri from Ma'asros. On what grounds would Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah dispute this? What might they learn from the Gezeirah Shavah "Reishis Arisoseichem" (Korach) from "Reishis Degancha" (Shoftim, written in connection with Terumah)?

(d)After requesting a reply through She'eilas Chalom, Rava came to his own conclusion. What was it?

3)

(a)Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah include the Digun of a Nochri and preclude that of Hekdesh (and not vice-versa) - because the former is more similar to that of a Yisrael, inasmuch as it too, does not require redemption.

(b)From the two times that the Torah writes "Arisoseichem" in Parshas Sh'lach-l'cha we learn - 've'Lo Iysas Nochri' and 've'Lo Iysas Hekdesh' (unlike the previous Limud, regarding Ma'asros, this Limud refers specifically to the dough belonging to Hekdesh and to the Nochri, and not to a Yisrael [see Shitah Mekubetzes, end of 1).

(c)Alternatively, the author is Rebbi Yossi and Rebbi Shimon, who exempt Digun Nochri from Ma'asros. Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah may well dispute this - because they might learn a Gezeirah- Shavah "Reishis Arisoseichem" (Korach) from "Reishis Degancha" (Shoftim, written in connection with Terumah).

(d)After requesting a reply through She'eilas Chalom, Rava came to his own conclusion that - whoever exempts Gilgul Akum from Chalah, exempts Miru'ach Akum from Terumah, and whoever obligates Gilgul Akum, obligates Miru'ach Akum.

4)

(a)Rav Papa queries Rava from another Beraisa. What does the Tana say there about a Nochri who designated a Petter Chamor, or Chalah from his dough?

(b)What do we extrapolate from there regarding the Terumah that he separates?

(c)What does Rav Papa try to prove from this?

4)

(a)Rav Papa queries Rava from another Beraisa, where the Tana invalidates a Petter Chamor and Chalah that a Nochri designated (permitting him to retain the former, and to feed the latter to Zarim).

(b)We extrapolate from there that - if he were to separate Terumah, it would be forbidden to Zarim.

(c)Rav Papa tries to prove from this that - even the Tana who forbids Miru'ach Nochri, permits his Gilgul.

5)

(a)Ravina queries Rava from yet another Beraisa. What does the Tana say about Chalas Eretz Yisrael and T'rumas Chutz la'Aretz of a Nochri?

(b)What do we extrapolate from there?

(c)How does Ravina query Rava from there?

(d)How do we answer these Kashyos on Rava? How might the author of these Beraisos nevertheless be Rebbi Yossi and Rebbi Shimon, who exempt Digun Nochri from Terumah?

5)

(a)Ravina queried Rava from yet another Beraisa, where the Tana rules that - the Chalas Eretz Yisrael and T'rumas Chutz la'Aretz of a Nochri are not valid (he does not need to give them to a Kohen), his Chalah may be eaten by Zarim, and his Terumah does not forbid the Chulin into which it falls).

(b)Once again, we extrapolate from there that - his T'rumas Eretz Yisrael would be forbidden to Zarim, and would forbid the Chulin into which it fell.

(c)Ravina queries Rava from there - in the same way as Rav Papa did.

(d)We answer these Kashyos - by establishing the Chiyuv Terumah as being mi'de'Rabbanan (but mi'd'Oraysa, the Nochri's Terumah will not be valid, like Rebbi Yossi and Rebbi Shimon, who exempt Digun Nochri from Terumah).

6)

(a)The Tana's reason for the decree is because of Ba'alei Kisin, which might refer to wealthy men, who purchase produce from Jewish merchants. What is he now afraid of?

(b)It might also refer to wealthy land-owners. What is he afraid of there?

(c)In that case, why does the Tana permit the Nochri's Chalah (even mi'de'Rabbanan)? Why is he not afraid of Ba'alei Kisin there, too?

6)

(a)The Tana's reason for the decree is because of Ba'alei Kisin, which might refer to wealthy men, who purchase produce from Jewish merchants - and who might jump to the conclusion that what one buys from Jewish merchants is Patur from Ma'asros (just like what one buys from Nochrim).

(b)It might also refer to wealthy land-owners - who will hand over their fields to Nochrim (see Shitah Mekubetzes 15), to perform the Miru'ach, in order to exempt them from Ma'asros).

(c)The Tana nevertheless permits the Nochri's Chalah (even mi'de'Rabbanan [and is not afraid of Ba'alei Kisin there, too]) - because there, one has the option of baking less than the Shi'ur Chalah (five Reva'im of flour plus), which is Patur from Chalah anyway.

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7)

(a)Rebbi Oshaya permits bringing the crops into the house together with the chaff (without having performed Miru'ach). What will one gain by doing that?

(b)What is the reason for this leniency?

(c)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei (in connection with Ma'aser) "Ve'achlu bi'She'arecha Vesave'u"?

(d)Then why are we not afraid of the Ba'alei Kisin by Ma'asros, like we are by Chalah, seeing as there too, the owner has these two options of avoiding having to give them?

7)

(a)Rebbi Oshaya permits bringing the crops into the house together with the chaff (without having performed Miru'ach) - in which case one will be permitted to feed one's animals (see Tosfos DH 'K'dei' and Shitah Mekubetzes 2).

(b)The reason for this leniency is - either because grain still in its chaff resembles animal food, which is not subject to Ma'asros, or because since the produce is covered with the chaff, it does not 'see' the doorway of the house as it passes through it, and any produce that does not see the doorway is Patur from Ma'asros.

(c)We learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Ve'achlu bi'She'arecha Vesave'u" that - crops are only subject to Ma'asros if they pass through the gate of the Chatzer (but not if they are brought into the house via the roof or via an enclosure [which avoid passing through the Chatzer]).

(d)Nevertheless, we are afraid of the Ba'alei Kisin, (in spite of these options of avoiding having to give Ma'asros) - because whereas the option of kneading less than the Shiur Chalah is performed discreetly, the options regarding Ma'asros, are performed in public, and most people would be too embarrassed to employ them.

8)

(a)Our Mishnah describes the way the Omer is prepared in a K'li Shareis. What does the Kohen place inside the K'li first (see Tif'eres Yisrael)?

(b)What does he do next after adding the flour?

(c)Finally, which two Avodos follow the Tenufah and Hagashah?

(d)What happens to the Shirayim of the Omer?

8)

(a)Our Mishnah describes the way the Omer is prepared in a K'li Shareis. The Kohen first pours some of the oil into the K'li before adding the flour (and placing the Levonah at the side of the K'li [Tif'eres Yisrael]).

(b)Next - he adds the remainder of the oil, and mixes it with the flour.

(c)Finally, he performs the Tenufah, the Hagashah - the Kemitzah and the Haktarah (see Tosfos DH 'Yatzak u'Balal').

(d)The Shirayim of the Omer - is eaten by the Kohen (inside the Azarah).

9)

(a)What did they find in the markets of Yerushalayim, immediately after the Omer had been brought?

(b)According to Rebbi Meir, this was not done with the consent of the Chachamim. Why was that?

(c)What does Rebbi Yehudah then hold?

9)

(a)Immediately after the Omer had been brought, they found the markets of Yerushalayim - full of flour made from roasted grains of corn (Kali), that had obviously been cut before the Omer was brought.

(b)According to Rebbi Meir, this was not done with the consent of the Chachamim - who forbid cutting the new corn before the Omer has been brought (in case one comes to eat it).

(c)Rebbi Yehudah - permits it, because he does not suspect the people of eating Chadash before the Omer has been brought.

10)

(a)In the Mishnah in Pesachim, what does Rebbi Yehudah hold in the case of someone who failed to search for Chametz ...

1. ... either on the eve or on the morning of the fourteenth of Nisan?

2. ... even during the sixth hour of the day? Why is that?

(b)What do the Chachamim say?

(c)What problem do we now have with Rebbi Yehudah?

(d)How does Rabah try to answer the Kashya? What good reason might there be to permit cutting the crops before the Omer?

10)

(a)In the Mishnah in Pesachim, Rebbi Yehudah maintains that, someone who failed to search for Chametz ...

1. ... either on the eve or on the morning of the fourteenth of Nisan - is obligated to do so during the sixth hour of the day.

2. ... even during the sixth hour of the day - is forbidden to search any more, in case he comes to eat the Chametz that he finds.

(b)The Chachamim - permit (even obligate) him to search for Chametz on Pesach itself, if necessary.

(c)The problem with Rebbi Yehudah is that - he appears to contradict himself. There he is afraid that one might come to eat the Chametz at a time when it is forbidden, whereas here he is not worried that one might come to eat the fresh corn before the Omer has been brought.

(d)Rabah tries to answer the Kashya - by ascribing Rebbi Yehudah's lenient view here to the fact that the Chachamim only allowed cutting the corn before the Omer with one's hands, but not using a scythe (a reminder not to eat it after it has been picked).

11)

(a)Abaye objects to Rabah's answer, on the basis of the fact that the Chachamim also permitted the crops to be ground and sifted. What is the problem with that?

(b)How do we answer it?

11)

(a)Abaye objects to Rabah's answer, bearing in mind that the Chachamim also permitted the crops to be ground and sifted - and how does one do *that* with one's hands?

(b)We answer - by suggesting alternative unusual methods regarding those processes (such as grinding it in a small hand-mill and sifting it using the back of the sieve.

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