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CHULIN 75 (10 Elul) - This Daf has been dedicated in memory of Sheina Basha (daughter of Yakov and Dora) Zuckerman, who passed away on 10 Elul, by her children and sons in law. |
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SUMMARY
1. There is a disagreement about whether, according to Rebbi Yehudah, a nine-month-old fetus found alive in its mother's womb after Shechitah is susceptible to Tum'as Ochlin even while it is alive.
2. Fish are susceptible to Tum'as Ochlin as soon as they are caught, according to Beis Shamai, and from the time that they die, according to Beis Hillel, and from the time they can no longer live, according to Rebbi Akiva.
3. There is a doubt about whether a fish that is a Tereifah is susceptible to Tum'as Ochlin.
4. If an animal miscarries, one who eats the Chelev of the fetus is Chayav Kares, according to Rebbi Yochanan. Reish Lakish disagrees.
5. In the second version, Rebbi Yochanan and Reish Lakish agree that there is no Chiyuv Kares for one who eats the Chelev of the fetus. They disagree about one who eats the Chelev of a nine-month-old fetus that is still in the womb of its mother.
6. Rebbi Ami states that according to Rebbi Meir, a fetus that is found after the Shechitah of its Tereifah mother becomes permitted with the Shechitah, but not according to Rebbi Yehudah. Rava disagrees.
7. According to Rebbi Shimon Shezuri, a fetus found in the mother after Shechitah is permitted even if it already stood on its feet. The Rabanan disagree.
8. According to the opinion that the father is taken into account, an animal which was sired by a Ben Peku'ah is forbidden even with Shechitah.
9. Rebbi Chanina maintains that according to Rebbi Shimon Shezuri, a fetus found in the mother after Shechitah is permitted along with its offspring, and the offspring of its offspring, and so on. Rebbi Yochanan disagrees.
10. Originally, the Chachamim maintained that if a man is being taken out to be executed and he instructs witnesses to write a Get for his wife, the Get must be written and given.
11. At a later time, the Chachamim retracted their view and ruled that when a man who is preparing to embark on a boat or caravan instructs witnesses to write a Get for his wife, they must write the Get and give it.
12. If one separates Terumas Ma'aser from Demai and it subsequently gets mixed back in, according to Rebbi Shimon Shezuri one may rely on the Am ha'Aretz if he claims that he separated the Ma'aser.
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A BIT MORE
1. According to Rebbi Yosi ha'Glili, since the fetus does not require Shechitah, and since Shechitah makes the mother susceptible to Tum'ah, it can become susceptible to Tum'as Ochlin even while it is alive.
2. According to Beis Shamai, if the fish is still thrashing about, it is susceptible to Tum'as Ochlin if an area the size of a Sela between its finds has become dried out. According to Rebbi Akiva, it is not yet susceptible to Tum'ah, since it would live if it would be thrown back into the water.
3. It is a doubt both according to the opinion that an animal that is a Tereifah can live, since perhaps a fish that is a Tereifah is different and cannot live, and according to the opinion that an animal that is a Tereifah cannot live, since perhaps a fish -- which does not need Shechitah -- is not considered dead even when it is a Tereifah.
4. If the fetus was found in the mother after Shechitah, the Chelev would be permitted, according to Rebbi Yehudah. However, in the case where it was stillborn, one is Chayav for eating the Chelev, according to Rebbi Yochanan. According to Reish Lakish, one who eats the Chelev is Chayav for eating Neveilah, but he is not Chayav for eating Chelev, since the fetus did not yet reach its ninth month.
5. According to Rebbi Yochanan, the Chelev of a nine-month-old fetus is forbidden, even though it would have been permitted had it been found after the Shechitah of the mother.
6. According to Rava, the fetus is permitted with the Shechitah of the Tereifah mother, even according to Rebbi Yehudah, because the Torah permits the fetus with the cutting of four Simanim -- the two Simanim of the mother and its own two Simanim.
7. According to the Rabanan, once it stands on its feet it is forbidden because of a Gezeirah that it may get confused with other animals which are permitted only with Shechitah.
8. Since the father is a Ben Peku'ah, the offspring does not require Shechitah. It is considered as through one Siman of the offspring was already cut, and only the other Siman needs to be cut, but Shechitah does not help because it is considered as though there was a long delay between the cutting of the two Simanim.
9. According to Rebbi Chanina, if the Ben Peku'ah sires a child with a Bas Peku'ah, the offspring is permitted. If the offspring also sires an offspring with a Bas Peku'ah, that offspring is also permitted. Rebbi Yochanan maintains that only the original Ben Peku'ah is permitted, not the offspring.
10. Although the husband instructed them only to write the Get and not to give the Get, we assume that he intended that they give the Get, but because he was flustered he forgot to mention it.
11. Rebbi Shimon Shezuri maintains that this applies even to a husband who is dangerously ill.
12. Terumah is Batel only in 100 parts of Chulin. Since Terumas Ma'aser is one in 100 when it becomes mixed back into the Ma'aser, it is not Batel, because there are only 99 parts Chulin. According to Rebbi Shimon Shezuri, since the entire mixture is forbidden, one is permitted to rely on the Am ha'Aretz. If he claims that he separated the Ma'aser before he sold it, it is permitted.
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