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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Meilah 15
ME'ILAH 15 (14 Kislev) - Sponsored by Dr. Lindsay A. Rosenwald of Lawrence
NY, in honor of his father, David ben Aharon ha'Levy Rosenwald of blessed
memory, whose Yahrzeit is 14 Kislev.
***** Perek Kodshei Mizbe'ach *****
(a) Our Mishnah discusses Kodshim combining with each other to make up a
Shi'ur. Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with each other to make up both the Shi'ur
Me'ilah and the Shi'ur Pigul, Nosar and Tamei. The Shi'ur to be Chayav ...
1. ... Me'ilah is - a Perutah.
(b) Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis ...
2. ... Pigul, Nosar and Tamei is - a k'Zayis.
1. ... also combine with each other regarding Me'ilah.
2. ... are not subject to Pigul, Nosar and Tamei, so it is obvious - that
they do not combine with each other in that regard.
3. ... also combine with Kodshei Mizbe'ach for the Shi'ur Me'ilah.
(a) Despite the fact that Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with Kodshei Bedek
ha'Bayis, the Tana sees fit to inform us that Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with
each other - because he wants to add 've'Lechayev Aleihen Mishum Pigul,
Nosar ve'Tamei' (which does not apply to Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis).
(b) Rebbi Yanai states - that Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis and Olah alone are
subject to Me'ilah, but not any other Kodshei Mizbe'ach.
(c) He opens his statement with the word 'Machvarta', which means - that it
(d) And he learns his ruling from the Pasuk "Nefesh ki Sim'ol Ma'al
mi'Kodshei Hashem" - implying that Me'ilah only pertains to Kodshim that
belong completely to Hashem (and all other Kodshim belong in part either to
the owners or to the Kohanim).
(a) According to Rebbi Yanai when ...
1. ... our Mishnah says 'Kodshei Mizbe'ach Mitztarfin Zeh im Zeh
li'Me'ilah' - it is referring to Me'ilah mi'de'Rabbanan, and the same
applies to ...
(b) And when Rebbi in a Beraisa, who rules that Emurei Kodshim Kalim are
subject to Me'ilah, learns it from the Pasuk there "Kol Cheilev la'Hashem" -
it is merely an 'Asmachta' (a Rabbinic injunction which is hinted in the
2. ... the opening Mishnah of our Masechta 'Kodshei Kodshim She'Shachtan
be'Darom, Mo'alin Bahen' and the Mishnah later in our Perek 'ha'Neheneh min
ha'Chatas ke'she'Hi Chayah Lo Ma'al ad she'Yifgom ... '.
(a) We query Rebbi Yanai however, from a statement of Ula, who said quoting
Rebbi Yochanan - that Kodshim that have died are no longer subject to
(b) This cannot be referring to Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis - since there is no
reason why Me'ilah should not pertain to a dead animal any less than to a
live one, or to a trash-heap.
(c) The Kashya on Rebbi Yanai now is - that we see from Ula Amar Rebbi
Yochanan, that live Kodshei Mizbe'ach are indeed subject to Me'ilah.
(d) We know that Ula is not speaking about an Olah exclusively - because he
said 'Kodshim she'Meisu', and not 'Olah she'Meisu'.
(a) Seeing as it is clear that all Kodshei Mizbe'ach are subject to Me'ilah,
what Rebbi Yanai meant to say was - that the Pasuk that he quoted
incorporates Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis and Olah only.
(b) Whereas from the Pasuk "ve'Ish ki Yochal Kodesh bi'Shegagah ve'Yasaf
Chamishiso Alav, ve'Nasan la'Kohen es ha'Kodesh" he learns - that Me'ilah
extends to all other Kodshim, too.
(a) Our Mishnah lists five things pertaining to the Olah which combine with
each other to make up the Shi'ur: 'ha'Basar, ha'Cheilev, ha'So'les -
(b) The flour, the wine and the oil - comprise the Minchah that accompany
(a) Even though we already learned in the previous Mishnah the Din of
'Mitztarfin', this Mishnah is coming to teach us - that even wine, flour and
oil ... , which belong to an entirely different species, combine with the
Basar to make up the Shi'ur.
(b) The Tana omits Dam - because it is neither subject to Me'ilah, not to
Pigul or Nosar.
(c) Besides Me'ilah, Pigul, Nosar and Tamei - this Din also affects
(a) The Tana lists six things that combine regarding the Todah. The
additional one is - the Lechem (the forty loaves that accompany it).
(b) Since Lechem is mentioned independently, 'So'les' must refer to - the
Minchah (like we learned by the Olah [see also Shitah Mekubetzes 8]).
(a) Rav Huna quoted our Mishnah to his son Rabah as 'Chamishah Devarim
be'Olam Mitztarfin', by which he meant - that the five things combine by all
(b) Rabah bar Rav Huna objected to this version however - from our Mishnah,
which lists six things by a Todah (and not five).
(c) Alternatively, 'be'Olam' implies even Chulin (see Shitah Mekubetzes 12),
in which case, Rabah bar Rav Huna's objection is based on the fact - that
the Tana's insertion of the Todah implies that the Tana is talking about
Kodshim, and not Chulin.
(a) Our Mishnah indicates what we learned in a Beraisa, which rules that the
Basar of an Olah and its Emurin combine to make up a Shi'ur Ha'ala'as
Chutz - whose Shi'ur is a k'Zayis.
(b) We learn from the Pasuk (in connection with Pigul) "ve'Im He'achol
Ye'achel" - that Achilas Mizbe'ach requires a k'Zayis (just like Achilas
(c) We extrapolate from the fact that the Beraisa mentions specifically
'Olah' - because as far as other Korbanos are concerned, the Basar and the
Emurin do not combine.
(d) We object to the continuation of the Beraisa 've'Lechayev Aleihen Mishum
Pigul, ve'Nosar ve'Tamei' - in that the very next Mishnah informs us how all
Pigulin and all Nosros combine); so how can the Beraisa preclude other
Korbanos from this Halachah.
(a) There is no problem regarding Ha'ala'as Chutz - since the Basar and the
Cheilev of Korbanos other than Olos do not combine.
(b) So how do we amend the Beraisa to read? What do we substitute for
'u'le'Chayev Aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei'?
(c) And the author of the Beraisa is Rebbi Yehoshua, who rules in a
Beraisa - that the blood of all Korbanos of which ...
1. ... a k'Zayis Basar or a k'Zayis Cheilev remain intact, may be sprinkled.
(d) One may however, sprinkle the blood of an Olah on half a k'Zayis Basar
and half a k'Zayis Cheilev - because since they are both Achilas Mizbe'ach,
2. ... half a k'Zayis of Basar and half a k'Zayis Cheilev remain - may not
be sprinkled (because Achilas Adam and Achilas Mizbe'ach do not combine).
(a) Rav Papa explains Rebbi Yehoshua's statement 'u've'Minchah Afilu Kulah
Kayemes, Lo Yizrok' to mean - that even if the entire Minchas Nesachim
remains intact, without a k'Zayis Basar or Emurin, one cannot sprinkle the
(b) He needs to teach us this, because we would otherwise have thought -
that since the Minchas Nesachim comes together with the Korban, it is
considered part of it in this regard too.
(a) Our Mishnah rules - that Terumah Gedolah), Terumas Ma'aser, Terumas
Ma'aser shel D'mai, Chalah and Bikurim all combine to make up the Shi'ur of
1. Terumah comprises - one fiftieth of the total ...
(b) This combination renders Asur - a dough that it causes to rise ...
2. ... Terumas Ma'aser - a tenth of a tenth (with reference to Ma'aser
3. ... Terumas Ma'aser shel D'mai consists of - one hundredth.
(c) ... and it causes whoever eats the mixture be'Shogeg - to pay the
principle plus a fifth.
(d) The Tana finally rules - that all Pigulin and all Nosros combine to make
up the Shi'ur (as we learned earlier).
(a) To explain the reason for the Mishnah's earlier ruling, we cite the two
Pesukim "Reishis Arisoseichem Tarimu Tarimu Terumah" (Korach) and "u'Terumas
Yedchem" (Re'ei) - which teach us that Chalah and Bikurim (respectively) are
called 'Terumah' and therefore combine.
(b) We do not cite a Pasuk for Terumah, Terumas Ma'aser and Terumas Ma'aser
shel D'mai as well - because the Torah specifically refers to them as