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(a) We conclude that Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish do not argue about the opinion of ben Nannes. Why is there no way that ben Nannes could theoretically hold like Rebbi Yochanan?
(b) We establish that they argue about Rebbi Yishmael's opinion. What is the basis of their Machlokes?
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6)
(a) We learned above the statement of Rav Gidal Amar Rav regarding Shtarei Pesikta ('Hen Hen ha'Devarim ha'Niknin ba'Amirah'). On what grounds does Rava ...
1. ... contend that, logically speaking, Rav's statement should be restricted to the father of a Na'arah (but not to the father of a Bogeres)?
2. ... conclude that this cannot be correct?
(b) Why then, does 'Hen Hen ha'Devarim ... ' apply, even though the parents receive no money in exchange?
(c) Ravina asked Rav Ashi whether these undertakings should be documented (even without the explicit consent of either party) or not. What are the ramifications of this She'eilah?
(d) What did Rav Ashi reply?
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7)
(a) Based on Rav Ashi's previous answer, how does he explain our Mishnah 'ha'Pikchin Hayu Kosvin al Menas she'Azun es Bitcha ... Kol Zeman she'At Imi'?
(b) What did Rebbi Chiya comment on the Mishnah (in Af-al-Pi) 'ha'Kosev l'Ishto Din u'Devarim ... '? What do we learn from there?
(c) We learned in a Beraisa 'Ein Kosvin Shtarei Erusin v'Nisu'in Ela mi'Da'as Sheneihem'. Assuming that the Tana is not referring to Shtarei Pesikta (posing a Kashya on Rav Ashi), then to what is he referring?
(d) This conforms with the opinion of Rav Papa and Rav Sheravya. In a case when they went and wrote a Shtar Kidushin without the consent of the Kalah (even though she agreed to the actual Kidushin itself), what did Rabah and Ravina on the one hand, and Rav Papa and Rav Sheravya on the other, rule?
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8)
(a) Our Mishnah states 'If the husbands died, their daughters are fed from Bnei Chorin, whilst her daughter is fed from Meshubadim, because she is like a creditor'. What problem does this Mishnah create for Rav Ashi?
(b) How does he establish the Mishnah to resolve the problem?
(c) If they made a Kinyan for her daughter, then why do we think that they might not have done so for their daughters?
(d) How is it in fact possible for their daughters to have been present at the time of the Kinyan (leaving us with a Kashya on Rav Ashi)?
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9)
(a) So we try to answer that a Kinyan will only be effective by her daughter, who is not included in the Tenai Beis Din, but not by their daughter, who is. On what grounds do we reject this answer?
(b) What is the final reason (according to Rav Ashi), for the fact that their daughter may not claim from Meshubadim, in spite of the Kinyan, even though her daughter may?
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10)
(a) What does Rav Chisda extrapolate from our Mishnah, which states that the first husband is obligated to send her Mezonos 'le'Makom she'Imah'?
(b) What are the ramifications of this inference?
(c) We query this however, on the grounds that the Tana may be referring to a Ketanah. What is the significance of this answer?
(d) To which incident is this referring?
(e) How do we prove that the Tana is in fact, referring even to a Gedolah, and that this is therefore considered the normal thing to do?
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