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6)
(a) When we propose that the author of the entire Mishnah is Rebbi Meir and that he differentiates between other documents and Kesuvos - we mean that maybe he only holds 'Acharayos Lav Ta'us Sofer Hu' by documents that are self-obligated, but by Kesuvos, which are a Tenai Beis Din, he will concede that 'Acharayos Ta'us Sofer Hu'.
(b) Rebbi Meir says in a Beraisa - that there are five things that one can only claim from Bnei Chorin (property that is actually in the debtor's domain - but not from Meshubadim [property that was sold]), among them Kesuvas Ishah, refuting the above proposition that Kesuvos are different.
(c) We finally establish our Mishnah entirely like ...
1. ... Rebbi Yehudah - who says later that 'Hiskabalti' is effective, whereas our Mishnah speaks when she did not say 'Hiskabalti'.
2. ... Rebbi Meir, who holds 'Acharayos Lav Ta'us Sofer Hu' - and when he says in our Mishnah 'Chayav', he means that he is Chayav to pay from Bnei Chorin and not from Meshubadim.
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(a) Two of the five things that one can only claim from Bnei Chorin are Peiros and Shevach Peiros for which the buyer claims reimbursement from the thief who sold him a stolen field.
1. ... 'Peiros' are - the fully-grown fruits that grew in the field.
2. ... 'Shevach Peiros' are- the various improvements that the purchaser made in the field.
(b) The buyer cannot claim them from Meshubadim (like he does the field itself) - because the amounts are not fixed, making it difficult for the purchaser (from whom they would claim) to guard himself against their claim.
(c) Besides a Shtar Chov which does not contain Acharayos and a Kesubah, the remaining case is - someone who undertakes to feed his wife's son or daughter.
(d) They (like Peiros and Shevach Peiros cannot claim them from Meshubadim - because the amounts are not fixed.
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8)
(a) Shmuel's father maintains that the wife of a Yisrael who has been raped is forbidden to return to her husband - on the grounds that, at the end of the Bi'ah, she is likely to have condescended, and a married woman who condescends to Bi'ah with another man is forbidden to her husband.
(b) Rav refuted Shmuel's father ruling from our Mishnah - which obligates a man to insert in his wife's Kesubah that, in the event of her being taken captive, he will redeem her and take her back.
(c) In spite of the Pasuk in Iyov (stating that sometimes even great men must swallow their words), Shmuel's father remained unperturbed - because he made a distinction between rape and being taken captive, which, even by the wife of a Kohen, is only a Chumra, since one does not know for certain that the woman was even raped.
(d) He establishes the Pasuk in Ki Setzei permitting a woman who was raped, to her husband - when witnesses testify that the woman protested during the entire period of the rape.
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(a) Rava disagrees with Shmuel's father. According to him - even if the woman who is being raped instructs the witnesses to leave the rapist alone because, if he had not raped her she would have hired him, she is nevertheless permitted to her husband ...
(b) ... because that is all part of the Ones - since the initial rape instilled her with the Yetzer ha'Ra to continue.
(c) The Beraisa Darshens from the Pasuk "v'Hi Lo Nispasah (Asurah)" that there is another woman who is not taken by force, but who is nevertheless permitted - and that is a woman who was initially forced, but who ultimately continued willingly, a proof for Rava.
(d) A second Tana Darshens from the same Pasuk that there is another woman who was taken by force, yet she is forbidden to her husband - and that is the wife of a Kohen.
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10)
(a) Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel quotes Rebbi Yishmael, who makes a third Derashah from "v'Hi Lo Nispasah (Asurah)", permitting a woman whose Kidushin was negated retroactively to the man to whom she is currently 'married', due to a condition that was not met. He says - that even if her son is riding on her shoulders she can just walk out of the marriage, because their marriage is not valid anyway.
(b) Rav Yehudah permitted women who were kidnapped and raped by their captors to return to their husbands, despite the fact that they (the women) would provide them with food - because, as he explained to the Rabanan, they did not so not willingly, but out of fear.
(c) Nor did he relent when they pointed out that they would even help them in wartime - by handing them the arrows to shoot, because that too, they did out of fear.
(d) Rava conceded however, that a woman who was captured would become forbidden to her husband - if her captor offered her freedom, and she declined the offer.
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(a) One Beraisa permits royal captives to return to their husbands, but forbids those taken captive by robbers. Another Beraisa forbids royal captives, but permits those taken captive by robbers. The former - refers to kings like Achashverosh, who took the women by force; the latter - to kings such as ben Netzer, who were basically robbers, but who captured towns and ruled over them by force. Women would offer to marry him for the privilege of marrying a ruler.
(b) Women captured by robbers are forbidden - when they are royal robbers of the caliber of ben Netzer (as we just explained), and they are permitted - when they are captured forcibly by ordinary robbers.
(c) The Tana of the second Beraisa refers to ben Netzer as a king, because he is contrasting him to an ordinary robber - whereas the Tana of the first Beraisa compares him to a robber, because he is contrasting him to a king.
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