1)

(a)What does Rav Huna bar Chiya extrapolate from our Mishnah regarding the case of a man who said to a Shali'ach 'Hiskabel Get Zeh le'Ishti ... Im Ratzah Lachzor, Yachzor' that is a Kashya on Rav Nachman ... Amar Rav (in the case of 'Havei Li Giti, ve'Ishtecha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti ... Afilu Higi'a Get le'Yadah, Einah Megureshes')?

(b)Why is this not a Kashya according to Rav Ashi's interpretation of Rav Nachman (which we just cited)?

(c)How do we answer Rav Huna bar Chiya's Kashya?

1)

(a)Rav Huna bar Chiya extrapolates from our Mishnah, which rules in the case of a man who said to a Shali'ach 'Hiskabel Get Zeh le'Ishti ... Im Ratzah Lachzor, Yachzor' - that a man wants his Get to take effect in whichever way possible, irrespective of which Lashon he uses, a Kashya on Rav Nachman ... Amar Rav who ruled (in the case of 'Havei Li Giti, ve'Ishtecha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti ... Afilu Higi'a Get le'Yadah, Einah Megureshes') 'Afilu Higi'a Get le'Yadah, Einah Megureshes'.

(b)This is not a Kashya according to Rav Ashi's interpretation of Rav Nachman (which we just cited) - because, as we explained, according to him, it is a question there of the Shali'ach retracting from his original Shelichus, which does not apply here at all.

(c)We answer Rav Huna bar Chiya's Kashya - by differentiating between this case, where the husband must have known that he cannot appoint a Shali'ach le'Kabalah, and must have therefore meant to appoint him as a Shali'ach le'Holachah (in spite of what he said), and Rav Nachman's case, where the husband may well have erred in believing the Shali'ach that his wife had said 'Hiskabel Li Giti'.

2)

(a)Based on the fact that a Ketanah cannot appoint a Shali'ach, what does the Tana of the Beraisa say about a Ketanah who said to a Shali'ach 'Hiskabel Li Giti'?

(b)How do we refute Rava's proof from here that when the husband gives his wife a Get, he wants it to take effect in whichever way possible (like we asked before on Rav Nachman)?

2)

(a)Based on the fact that a Ketanah cannot appoint a Shali'ach, the Tana of the Beraisa says that if a Ketanah said to a Shali'ach 'Hiskabel Li Giti' - the Get is not effective until it reaches the woman's hand.

(b)We refute Rava's proof from here that when the husband gives his wife a Get, he wants it to take effect in whichever way possible (like we asked before on Rav Nachman) - in exactly the same way as we refuted the previous proof, by differentiating between a man who knows when 'Hiskabel' is ineffective (and therefore appoints a Shali'ach le'Holachah), and one who errs in the Shali'ach's words.

3)

(a)In another Beraisa, the Tana speaks about a case of 'Havei Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti; Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Havei Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Z'chi Lah ve'Hiskabel Lah'. How ...

1. ... does the Beraisa conclude?

2. ... do we initially establish the Beraisa to pose a Kashya on Rav Nachman?

(b)How do we finally establish it, according to Rav Nachman?

(c)What do we then try to prove from the fact that, in the case of 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Havei Li Giti ... Holech ve'Ten Lah, Im Ratzah Lachzor Yachzor'?

(d)How do we refute this proof? How does this case differ from the case above 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Havei Li Giti ... Heilech K'mo she'Amrah ... '?

3)

(a)In another Beraisa, the Tana speaks about a case of 'Havei Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti; Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Havei Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Z'chi Lah ve'Hiskabel Lah'.

1. The Beraisa concludes - 'Ratzah Lachzor Yachzor, mi'she'Higi'a Get le'Yadah, Megureshes'.

2. We initially establish the Beraisa - 'Kabalah a'Kabalah, ve'Holachah a'Holachah', making the first case the equivalent of that of Rav Nachman, in whose opinion, the Get should not take effect at all.

(b)We finally establish the Beraisa, according to Rav Nachman - in that Kabalah refers to Holachah, and Holachah to Kabalah.

(c)We try to prove from the fact that, in the case of 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Havei Li Giti ... Holech ve'Ten Lah, Im Ratzah Lachzor Yachzor' - that the husband relies on the Shali'ach. Otherwise, the Get ought to take effect immediately, like his wife said.

(d)We refute this proof however, by pointing out that the She'eilah whether the husband relies on the Shali'ach or on his wife, speaks when he said 'Heilech K'mo she'Amrah', whilst this Beraisa is talking about 'Holech'.

4)

(a)The Tana Kama in a Beraisa states 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Z'chi Lah ve'Hiskabel Lah ... Lo Yachzor'. Why is that?

(b)What does Rebbi Nasan say?

(c)After echoing the words of the Tana Kama, Rebbi adds a case where it would be possible for the husband to retract. Which case is that?

(d)The compiler of the Beraisa might be adding Rebbi's opinion to teach us the Chidush of 'I Efshi'. What other reason might he have had for adding it?

4)

(a)The Tana Kama in a Beraisa states 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Z'chi Lah ve'Hiskabel Lah ... Lo Yachzor' - because he holds 'Holech ki'Zechi'.

(b)Rebbi Nasan - agrees with the Tana Kama by 'Z'chi Lah ve'Hiskabel Lah', but not by 'Holech ve'Ten Lah', because he holds 'Holech La'av ki'Zechi'.

(c)After echoing the words of the Tana Kama, Rebbi adds a case where it would be possible for the husband to retract - where the husband first said 'I Efshi she'Tekabel Lah' (like we learned in our Mishnah).

(d)The compiler of the Beraisa might be adding Rebbi's opinion to teach us the Chidush of 'I Efshi', or he might be coming to teach us - that the author of the Beraisa is Rebbi.

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5)

(a)Rebbi Nasan holds 'Holech La'av ki'Zechi'. What She'eilah do we ask regarding 'Heilech', according to him?

(b)How do we ...

1. ... try to resolve the She'eilah from the Beraisa 'ha'Ishah she'Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, (and he said to the Shali'ach 'Holech Get Zeh le'Ishti') Ratzah Lachzor Lo Yachzor'? What does 'Holech' mean?

2. ... refute this proof? Who else might be the author of the Beraisa?

(c)What do we extrapolate from the Beraisa 'Lefichach, Im Amar Lo ha'Ba'al I Efshar she'Tekabel Lah Ela Holech ve'Ten Lah Ratzah Lachzor Yachzor'?

(d)Like whom do we establish this Beraisa? What does 'Holech' mean?

5)

(a)Rebbi Nasan holds 'Holech La'av ki'Zechi'. We ask - whether he does not concede that 'Heilech ki'Zechi'.

(b)We ...

1. ... try to resolve the She'eilah from the Beraisa 'ha'Ishah she'Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, (and he said to the Shali'ach 'Holech Get Zeh le'Ishti') Ratzah Lachzor Lo Yachzor' - which we suggest, really ought to be 'Heilech' (a proof that Rebbi Nasan holds 'Heilech ki'Zechi').

2. ... refute this proof - by establishing the author as the Rabbanan, and leaving 'Holech' intact.

(c)We extrapolate from the Beraisa 'Lefichach, Im Amar Lo ha'Ba'al I Efshi she'Tekabel Lah Ela Holech ve'Ten Lah, Ratzah Lachzor Yachzor' - 'Ha Im Lo Amar I Efshi, Ratzah Lachzor, Lo Yachzor'.

(d)We establish this Beraisa too - like the Rabbanan. Here too, 'Holech' means literally 'Holech', and not 'Heilech' (like we initially suggest).

6)

(a)What distinction does the Tana of another Beraisa make between 'Holech Get Zeh le'Ishti', and 'Heilech Get Zeh le'Ishti'?

(b)What do we finally prove from here? Why must the author be Rebbi Nasan?

6)

(a)The Tana of another Beraisa - permits 'Holech Get Zeh le'Ishti' to retract, but not 'Heilech Get Zeh le'Ishti'.

(b)The author of this Beraisa must be - Rebbi Nasan, who holds 'Holech La'av ki'Zechi', and who we now see, concedes that 'Heilech ki'Zechi'.

7)

(a)What is the basis of Rav Aba Amar Rav Huna Amar Rav's ruling that in a case of 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Choletzes ve'Lo Misyabemes'?

(b)Rav also says 'Holech Manah li'Peloni she'Ani Chayav Lo, Chayav be'Acharayuso, ve'Im Ba Lachzor, Eino Chozer' (suggesting that he holds 'Holech ki'Zechi'). How do we reconcile these two seemingly contradictory rulings?

7)

(a)The basis of Rav Aba Amar Rav Huna Amar Rav's ruling that in a case of 'Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Isht'cha Amrah Hiskabel Li Giti, ve'Hu Amar Holech ve'Ten Lah, Choletzes ve'Lo Misyabemes' - is Rav's Safek whether 'Holech ki'Zechi' or not.

(b)Rav also says 'Holech Manah li'Peloni she'Ani Chayav Lo Chayav be'Acharayuso, ve'Im Ba Lachzor, Eino Chozer' (suggesting that he holds 'Holech ki'Zechi') - because in the latter case we apply the principle 'Safek Mamona le'Kula' (and the money is currently with the creditor), whereas in the former case, the predominant principle is 'Safek Isura le'Chumra'.

8)

(a)Rav prohibits a woman from appointing a Shali'ach to receive her Get from her husband's Shali'ach. Rav's reason might be because it is a slight on her husband not to receive the Get directly. What other reason might govern Rav's ruling?

(b)What are the ramifications of the two reasons?

(c)What does Rebbi Chanina say?

8)

(a)Rav prohibits a woman from appointing a Shali'ach to receive her Get from her husband's Shali'ach. Rav's reason is either because it is a slight on her husband not to receive the Get directly, or - because of a decree in case he places the Get in a Chatzer which she only acquired afterwards.

(b)The ramifications of the two reasons will be - in a case where she appointed her Shali'ach before he appointed his (in which case it is no longer comparable to a Chatzer that she acquired later, yet the reason of slighting her husband will still apply).

(c)Rebbi Chanina - permits the woman to appoint a Shali'ach to receive her Get from her husband's Shali'ach.

9)

(a)What did that woman say when the Shali'ach (le'Holachah) who brought her Get found her kneading dough?

(b)Why did Rav Nachman quote Rebbi Chanina here?

(c)What objection did Rava raise to that?

9)

(a)When the Shali'ach (le'Holachah) who brought that woman's Get found her kneading dough - she told him to become a Shali'ach le'Kabalah and to hold on to the Get.

(b)Rav Nachman quoted Rebbi Chanina here - inasmuch as, if he knew that the Halachah was like him, he would have ruled that the woman was divorced.

(c)Rava however, objected - on the grounds that the Shali'ach did not have time to report back to the Meshale'ach between one Shelichus and the other, and such a Shelichus is invalid (as we learned above, at the end of the second Perek).

10)

(a)Rebbi Ami agrees with Rava, though Rebbi Chiya bar Aba is uncertain. He finally rules le'Chumra. On what principle is this Chumra based?

(b)When a case came before Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa, he ruled that the woman required 'Get va'Chalitzah'. What did he mean by that (seeing as the two are a contradiction in terms)?

10)

(a)Rebbi Ami agrees with Rava, though Rebbi Chiya bar Aba is uncertain. He finally rules le'Chumra - based on the principle 'Safek Isura le'Chumra'.

(b)When a case came before Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa, he ruled that the woman required 'Get va'Chalitzah'. Seeing as the two are a contradiction in terms, what he obviously meant was that she needed a Get in her husband's lifetime (should she wish to get married; but that, in the event that she did not) Chalitzah after his death.

11)

(a)What did Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa Amar Rav say in another case where the witnesses erred and wrote the woman's name as Tafasa, instead of Nafasa?

(b)On which grounds did Rabah object to this ruling?

(c)In which case would he have agreed with Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa?

(d)Rav Nachman even disagrees with Rabah too. What does he finally rule?

11)

(a)In another case, where the witnesses erred and wrote the woman's name as Tafasa, instead of Nafasa, Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa Amar Rav said - that the witnesses had completed their Shelichus, and that they had no authority to proceed any further without the husband's consent.

(b)Rabah objected to this ruling however - on the grounds that one cannot refer to writing something on a piece of paper as having completed one's Shelichus.

(c)He would have agreed with Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa - had the Shali'ach who wrote the Get handed it over to the Shali'ach who was to take it to the woman, and it got lost (in which case they would have no authority to write a second Get).

(d)Rav Nachman disagrees with Rabah too. He finally rules - that seeing as the husband wanted the Get to be written and handed over to his wife, until this has taken place, their Shelichus remains intact, even if it means writing a hundred Gitin to achieve it.

12)

(a)Rava asked Rav Nachman 'Kisvu u'Tenu le'Shali'ach, Mahu? Seluki Salik L'hu, O Dilma le'Tircha Didhu Chayash'? What did he mean when he said ...

1. ... 'Seluki Salik L'hu'?

2. ... 'le'Tircha Didhu Chayash'?

(b)What is the outcome of Rava's She'eilah?

(c)We learned in our Mishnah that Raban Shimon ben Gamliel equates a woman who says to her Shali'ach 'Tul Li Giti' with one who says 'Hiskabel Li Giti'. What does the Beraisa say about 'Tul Li, ve'Sa Li (which the Rif and the Rosh omit from their text) vi'Y'hei Li be'Yadech'?

12)

(a)Rava asked Rav Nachman 'Kisvu u'Tenu le'Shali'ach, Mahu? Seluki Salik L'hu, O Dilma le'Tircha Didhu Chayash'? When he said ...

1. ... 'Seluki Salik L'hu' - he meant to say that maybe the husband only appointed them as Sheluchim up to the time that they handed the Get to the second set of Sheluchim, at which point their Shelichus would end (and, should the Get become lost, they were no longer authorized to write a second one).

2. ... 'le'Tircha Didhu Chayash' - he meant that perhaps the husband was only removing from them the onus of taking the Get all the way to his wife, but not relieving them of the Shelichus (and should the Get become lost, they retain the authority to write a second one).

(b)The outcome of Rava's She'eilah is - Teiku.

(c)We learned in our Mishnah that Raban Shimon ben Gamliel equates a woman who says to her Shali'ach 'Tul Li Giti' with one who says 'Hiskabel Li Giti'. The Beraisa says - that 'Tul Li, ve'Sa Li (which the Rif and the Rosh omit from their text) vi'Y'hei Li be'Yadech' all have the same Din as 'Hiskabel Li Giti'.

13)

(a)In which case does a woman who appointed a Shali'ach le'Kabalah require two pairs of witnesses?

(b)Does this necessarily entail four people?

13)

(a)A woman who appointed a Shali'ach le'Kabalah requires two pairs witnesses - should the Shali'ach then claim that he received the Get on her behalf but it got torn up. Two witnesses are then required to testify that the Shali'ach was appointed in their presence, and two witnesses, that the Shali'ach received the Get but it got torn up.

(b)This does not necessarily entail four people - because, the same two witnesses can testify both times or one for each event combined with a third witness from the street.

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