1)

(a)According to Rava, what did Avraham Avinu's descendants merit for his words to the King of S'dom ...

1. ... "Im mi'Chut"?

2. ... "ve'ad S'roch Na'al"?

(b)What sort of reward is inherent in ...

1. ... the strap of the Tefilin (shel Rosh)? What does Rebbi Eliezer say about the Pasuk in Ki Savo "Ve'ra'u Kol Amei ha'Aretz ki Sheim Hash-m Nikra Alecha"?

2. ... the thread of Techeiles?

(c)He learns the Mashal to the sapphire brick from a Pasuk in Mishpatim and from a Pasuk in Yechezkel ("ke'Mar'eh Even Sapir D'mus Kisei"). From which Pasuk in Mishlatim does he learn it?

(d)What does Rebbi Aba say about theft that has been used up?

(e)From whom does he learn it?

1)

(a)According to Rava, for Avraham Avinu's words to the King of S'dom ...

1. ... "Im mi'Chut" - his descendants merited the T'cheiles thread of Tzitzis.

2. ... "ve'ad S'roch Na'al" - they merited the strap of the Tefilin.

(b)The reward inherent in ...

1. ... the strap of the Tefilin (shel Rosh) is that - when the nations of the world will see the Tefilin shel Rosh, they will be afraid of Yisrael, as the Pasuk writes in Ki Savo "Vera'u Kol Amei ha'Aretz ki Sheim Hash-m Nikra alecha Veyar'u mimeka").

2. ... the thread of Techeiles is that - by virtue of the fact that it resembles the sea, and the sea resembles the sky, the sky, the dark-blue sapphire brick (which Hash-m took from the walls that Yisrael built in Egypt), and the sapphire brick, the Kisei ha'Kavod. And when Hash-m, for His part, looks at the Kisei ha'Kavod, He remembers the person who kept this Mitzvah, which is compared to all the Mitzvos.

(c)He learns this final point from a Pasuk in Mishpatim - ("He learns this final point from the Pasuk in Mishpatim - "Vayir'u es Elokei Yisrael ve'Sachas Raglav ke'Ma'aseh Livnas ha'Sapir ... " and from the Pasuk in Yechezkel "ke'Mar'eh Even Sapir D'mus Kisei".

(d)Rebbi Aba states that - even great Tzadikim cannot achieve atonement for theft that has been used up ...

(e)... from Avraham Avinu, who insisted on the men who fought with him against the four kings, keeping their portion of the spoil (despite the fact that he considered it stolen property).

2)

(a)What did Rebbi Yochanan, quoting Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon say about Rebbi Eliezer the son of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili, regarding Agadah?

(b)How did the latter interpret the Pasuk in Va'eschanan "Lo me'Rubchem mi'Kol ha'Amim Chashak Hash-m bachem"?

(c)In fact, Hash-m's desire for Yisrael is based on the fact that they respond to greatness by making themselves small. What is the source for this?

(d)Rebbi Yochanan gives three examples of Tzadikim who reacted to greatness in this way. What (verbal) reaction does he quote in the name of ...

1. ... Avraham Avinu?

2. ... Moshe and Aharon?

3. ... David ha'Melech?

2)

(a)Rebbi Yochanan, quoting Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon declared that - one should pay close attention to anything that Rebbi Eliezer the son of Rebbi Yossi ha'Gelili said in the realm of Agadah.

(b)The latter interpreted the Pasuk in Va'eschanan "Lo me'Rubchem mi'Kol ha'Amim Chashak Hash-m bachem" to mean that - it was not on account of their great numbers that Hash-m desired them ...

(c)... but because they respond to greatness by making themselves small, as the Pasuk concludes there - "ki Atem ha'Me'at mi'Kol ha'Amim" (implying that Hash-m chose Yisrael because they make themselves small more than any other nation).

(d)Rebbi Yochanan gives three examples of Tzadikim who reacted to greatness in this way ...

1. ... Avraham Avinu - who responded to greatness with the comment "I am dust and ashes".

2. ... Moshe and Aharon - who responded with "And what are we?"

3. ... David ha'Melech - who responded with "And I am a worm and not a man".

3)

(a)What did Rava (or Rebbi Yochanan) comment to distinguish between the respective statements of Avraham on the one hand, and Moshe and Aharon on the other?

(b)Not so, the nations of the world. What sort of response did Hash-m receive for the greatness that he bestowed upon ...

1. ... Nimrod?

2. ... Paroh?

(c)If Sancheriv (King of Ashur) boasted that there was no-one among the gods of the nations that could match him, and Nevuchadnetzar (King of Bavel), that he would float above the world in a thick cloud, what did Chiram (King of Tzor [Tyre]) claim?

(d)What did Rava (or Rebbi Yochanan) say, based on the Pasuk in Beshalach "ve'Nachnu Mah" and the Pasuk in Iyov "Toleh Eretz al B'limah"?

3)

(a)Rava (or Rebbi Yochanan) commented that - the "Nachnu Mah" of Moshe and Aharon reflects a higher level of humility than the "Anochi Afar va'Eifer" of Avraham, since it constitutes total self-nullification.

(b)Not so, the nations of the world. For the greatness that Hash-m bestowed upon ...

1. ... Nimrod, the latter responded - by building the Tower of Bavel (an act of rebellion against Himself).

2. ... Paroh - the latter asked Moshe "Who is Hash-m, that I should obey His commands?"

(c)Sancheriv (King of Ashur) boasted that there was no-one among the gods of the nations that could match him, and Nevuchadnetzar (King of Bavel), that he would float above the world in a thick cloud whereast Chiram (King of Tzor [Tyre]) boasted that - he had made himself seven copper heavens (by means of witchcraft), and sat above them.

(d)Based on the Pasuk in Beshalach "ve'Nachnu Mah" and the Pasuk in Iyov "Toleh Eretz al B'limah", Rava (or Rebbi Yochanan) said that - the whole world was only created for the sake of Moshe and Aharon (who submitted themselves totally to Hash-m's jurisdiction).

4)

(a)For which category of person was the world created, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Ila'a, based on the same Pasuk in Iyov ("Toleh Eretz al B'limah")? What is the acronym of "B'limah"?

2. ... Rebbi Avahu, based on the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah "u'mi'Tachas Zero'os Olam'?

(b)What does the latter Pasuk then mean?

(c)And how does Rebbi Yitzchak interpret the Pasuk in Tehilim ...

1. ... "ha'Umnam Eilem"?

2. ... "Tzedek Tedaberun"?

3. ... "Meisharim Tishpotu"?

4)

(a)According to ...

1. ... Rebbi Ila'a, based on the same Pasuk in Iyov ("Toleh Eretz al B'limah") the world was created for people - who keep their mouths shut during the course of a quarrel, because the acronym of "B'limah" is Bolem (Piv) (keeping [one's mouth] shut).

2. ... Rebbi Avahu, based on the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah "u'mi'Tachas Zero'os Olam", the world was created for people - who consider themselves non-existent.

(b)What the latter Pasuk then means is that - it is those people who are always trodden underfoot without retaliting who are the power behind the world's continued existence.

(c)Rebbi Yitzchak interprets the Pasuk in Tehilim ...

1. ... "ha'Umnam Eilem" to mean that - in truth a person's occupation in this world is to keep his mouth shut (Ileim = dumb).

2. ... "Tzedek Tedaberun" to mean that - words of Torah are precluded from that occupation.

3. ... "Meisharim Tishpotu" means that - one should make sure to remain humble in the process.

5)

(a)What problem do we have with Rebbi Ze'ira (or Rabah bar Yirmiyah), who permits performing Kisuy ha'Dam with the ashes of an Ir ha'Nidachas?

(b)Ze'iri answers that Rebbi Ze'ira is referring to the burned earth of the city. Based on the Pasuk in Re'ei "ve'es Kol Sh'lalah Tikbotz el Toch Rechovah Ve'sarafta ... ", how does that answer the Kashya?

(c)What basic principle does Rava present that circumvents the Kashya altogether?

5)

(a)The problem with Rebbi Ze'ira (or Rabah bar Yirmiyah), who permits performing Kisuy ha'Dam with the ashes of an Ir ha'Nidachas is that - based on the Pasuk there "ve'Lo Yidbak be'Yadcha Me'umah ... ", everything in an Ir ha'Nidachas is Asur be'Hana'ah, so how can one use it for anything?

(b)Ze'iri answers that Rebbi Ze'ira is referring to the scorched earth of the city - which is not subject to the Mitzvah of burning, since it first needs to be detached, and (based on the Pasuk "ve'es Kol Sh'lalah Tikbotz el Toch Rechovah Ve'sarafta ... "), the Torah includes only what requires gathering and burning, and not what needs detaching as well).

(c)Rava circumvents the Kashya altogether, by citing the basic principle - Mitzvos La'av Lehanos Nitnu (a benefit that consists purely of a Mitzvah is not considered Hana'ah in this regard).

6)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about a Shofar and a Lulav of Avodah-Zarah?

(b)Assuming that the Tana speaks even Bedieved, how did Rav Rechumi query Rava from there?

(c)How did Ravina establish the Beraisa, to answer the Kashya?

(d)Why is it forbidden Lechatchilah?

6)

(a)The Beraisa rules that a Shofar and a Lulav of Avodah-Zarah - may not be used for their respective Mitzvos.

(b)Assuming that the Tana is speaking even Bedieved - Rav Rechumi asked from there on Rava, according to whom there is no reason not to be Yotzei.

(c)To answer the Kashya, Ravina established the Beraisa - Lechatchilah, but one is Yotzei Bedi'eved.

(d)It is forbidden Lechatchilah howeer - because it is disgusting to perform a Mitzvah with an object that was used for Avodah-Zarah.

7)

(a)What principle did Rav Ashi present, that circumvents the Kashya on Rava altogether?

(b)Why can we not apply the same principle by the case of Ir ha'Nidachas, too?

7)

(a)Rav Ashi circumvents the Kashya on Rava altogether - by presenting the principle of Kitusi Michtas Shi'ura meaning that seeing as Avodah-Zarah must be burned, it is considered as if it has already been burned, in which case the Shofar and the Lulav no longer have the required Shi'ur.

(b)This principle will not apply by the case of Ir ha'Nidachas - where the more broken up the earth is, the better.

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8)

(a)Our Mishnah lists the circumstances (ba'Aretz u've'Chutzah la'Aretz ... ) under which the Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh applies. Which circumstances does the Tana preclude from the Isur?

(b)It applies both to a Beheimah and to a Chayah. To which leg does it apply?

(c)Which species is precluded from the prohibition?

8)

(a)Our Mishnah lists the circumstances (ba'Aretz u've'Chutzah la'Aretz ... ) under which the Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh applies. In fact - there are no circumstances which the Tana precludes from the Isur.

(b)It applies both to a Beheimah and to a Chayah - to both legs.

(c)It does not however - apply to a bird, which does not have a Kaf (spoon of the thigh, as will be explained in the Sugya).

9)

(a)The Mishnah now discusses a Sh'lil. What is a 'Sh'lil'?

(b)According to the Tana Kama, a Sh'lil is subject to Gid ha'Nasheh. What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(c)What else does the Tana say about a Sh'lil? Which prohibition does not apply to it?

(d)According to Rebbi Meir, a Shochet is not believed to say that he has removed the Gid ha'Nasheh. Bearing in mind the principle Eid Echad Ne'eman be'Isurin, what is the reason for that?

(e)What do the Chachamim say?

9)

(a)The Mishnah now discusses a Sh'lil - a ninth-month old baby that is found inside a large Beheimah (or a fifth-month baby of a small one).

(b)According to the Tana Kama, a Sh'lil is subject to Gid ha'Nasheh. According to Rebbi Yehudah - it is not

(c)The Tana adds that - the Cheilev of a Sh'lil is permitted.

(d)According to Rebbi Meir (despite the principle Eid Echad Ne'eman be'Isurin a Shochet is not believed to say that he has removed the Gid ha'Nasheh - because it entails a great deal of effort to root it out completely (as we will see later).

(e)The Chachamim however, disagree. In fact - they believe the Shochet both as regards that, and as regards the removal of the Cheilev.

10)

(a)From which stage does the Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh take effect?

(b)What is then the problem with our Mishnah, which teaches us that the Isur pertains to Kodshim, too?

(c)We suggest that the Gid ha'Nasheh possesses a taste (Yesh be'Gidin be'Nosen Ta'am). In that case, what is the Tana coming to teach us?

(d)On what grounds do we reject this suggestion? What ought the Mishnah then to have said?

10)

(a)The Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh takes effect - from the time the fetus is formed ...

(b)... and the problem with our Mishnah is - why the Tana finds it necessary to teach us that the Isur pertains to Kodshim, too, since it is obvious that the Isur will not simply fall away because the owner declares the animal Hekdesh.

(c)We suggest that the Gid ha'Nasheh possesses a taste (Yesh be'Gidin be'Nosen Ta'am) and that apart from that (itself a Chidush), what the Tana is coming to teach us is that - the Isur of Kodshim takes effect on that of Gid ha'Nasheh (Isur Chal al Isur).

(d)We reject this suggestion, however, because the Mishnah ought then to have said - 'Mukdashin Noheg be'Gid' (rather than 'Gid Noheg be'Mukdashin').

11)

(a)So we try to answer that in fact, the Tana holds Ein be'Gidin be'Nosen Ta'am. How will we then explain our Mishnah? What is it then coming to teach us?

(b)On what grounds do we reject this explanation, too? What does the Mishnah later say about the thigh of an animal that is cooked together with the Gid ha'Nasheh still inside it?

11)

(a)So we try to answer that in fact, the Tana holds Ein be'Gidin be'Nosen Ta'am and he is coming to teach us that - one only transgresses the Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh, and not that of Hekdesh.

(b)We reject this explanation too however, on the basis of the Mishnah later - which forbids the thigh of an animal that is cooked together with the Gid ha'Nasheh, provided the latter gives taste (that it consists of more than one sixtieth), a clear proof that our Mishnah holds Yesh be'Gidin be'Nosen Ta'am.

12)

(a)So we establish the case by a baby of Kodshim. When does it becomes Hekdesh?

(b)What is the Tana then coming to teach us?

(c)What would we otherwise have thought?

(d)How do we refute the Kashya that the Seifa states ve'Noheg ba'Shelil, implying that the Reisha is not talking about a Sh'lil?

12)

(a)So we establish the case by a baby of Kodshim, which becomes Hekdesh when the baby is formed ...

(b)... and the Tana holds that it and the Isur of Hekdesh take effect simultaneously and that Gid ha'Nasheh Noheg bi'Sh'lil.

(c)We would otherwise have thought that - it only takes effect after the baby is born, in which case we would apply the principle Ein Isur Chal al Isur (seeing as the Isur of Hekdesh preceded it).

(d)To refute the Kashya that the Seifa states 've'Noheg ba'Shelil', implying that the Reisha is not talking about a Sh'lil - we view the Seifa as an extension of the Reisha, as if the Tana was saying that the earlier statement (Gid ha'Nasheh Noheg ba'Shelil) is in fact, a Machlokes Tana'im between the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yehudah.

13)

(a)We query this explanation however, from a Mishnah in Nazir. Discussing the Tum'os that require a Nazir to shave off all his hair, and to begin his Nezirus from scratch, the Tana lists al ha'Meis ve'al K'zayis min ha'Meis. What is the problem with that?

(b)Rebbi Yochanan answers the Kashya, by establishing al ha'Meis by a Nefel. What does he mean by that? What sort of Nefel is he talking about?

(c)Why does this pose a Kashya on the current interpretation of our Mishnah?

(d)So how do now explain our Mishnah? On what grounds does the Isur of Gid ha'Nasheh take effect on the Isur of Mukdashin that preceded it?

13)

(a)We query this explanation however, from a Mishnah in Nazir. Discussing the Tum'os that require a Nazir to shave off all his hair, and to begin his Nezirus from scratch, the Tana lists Al ha'Meis ve'Al K'zayis min ha'Meis, a problem - because if a k'Zayis Min ha'Meis renders a Nazir Tamei (in the way that we explained), then why does the Tana need to add a Meis?

(b)Rebbi Yochanan answers the Kashya by establishing al ha'Meis by a Nefel - by which he means one that is complete, though in its early stages, where none of its limbs have yet developed Gidin.

(c)This poses a Kashya on the current interpretation of our Mishnah - since it teaches us that a baby is formed before its Gidin are, in which case, the Isur of Kodshim in our Mishnah will precede that of Gid ha'Nasheh, and that they do not therefore take effect simultaneously, as we previously assumed.

(d)So we now explain our Mishnah to mean that - even though the Isur of Mukdashin preceded that of Gid ha'Nasheh, the latter will nevertheless take effect - because it applied to the b'nei No'ach (before Matan Torah), and is therefore more Chamur than it.

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